Fuel prices up and Delta Saabs stay

[gojo]

Oh, please no! That's the most uncomfortble POS I have ever ridden on. The rock hard seats, noise, and the seatback velcro pulling my hair out is just unbearable.
All that and being imprisoned on board for about ten minutes after landing until they feel it safe to let you off this bucket of bolts is simply unbearable. These things need to be turned into razor blades asap.

Let me guess....flip'n the shades up and.....oh yeah, here it comes...

Props are for boats.


It's a good thing your opinion doesn't matter...the crj200 is worthless at crude prices over $100/barrel....better get used to the vibrations. Props are coming back.

They may not be the most confortable airplane, but they are very safe, dependable, and economical. Plus were not talking about flying them to paris. They will be perfect on some of those short jet routes that have lighter loads. Otherwise Delta may lessen frequency or cancel service all together. Lets not forget, the original intent of the regional airline

 

[Count Dracula]

They need to pickup some Saab 2000's....365 TAS, 50 pax and low fuel burn up to 310.

 

[big shacks]

[/QUOTEOh, please no! That's the most uncomfortble POS I have ever ridden on. The rock hard seats, noise, and the seatback velcro pulling my hair out is just unbearable.

Short version = Grow a pair you Nancy!

 

[On Your Six]

Maybe a little good news for Mesaba's furloughs. A good source says that all of the Delta Saab flying is here to stay. Even some increase in the ATL side of the house. I don't find that all too surprising since oil is over $100 a barrel and more and more 200's are leaving the system.

Along with the Delta Saab flying staying I hear we will be opening an ATL Saab base soon. I really don't see too much increase in MEM, but ATL is where the increase would be.

Hopefully the recall letter will be sent out sooner rather than later.

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Maybe instead of high oil, maybe the reason could be the LGA slot swap deal with USAir may actually occur, and USAir wouldn't need the Saab feed. Maybe something is in the works? USAir wants to refocus on DCA, and dump a lot of the LGA stuff except their NYC Shuttle, which they hope they can fly eventually out of the current DL Marine Air Terminal if the swap is allowed.



OYS

 

[Flyer1015]

This SLI is getting messy for our furloughs. The sad truth is that you are probably right.

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

Well as of this moment none of the companies have any furloughs, so that no longer is an issue.

 

[WIPilot]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

Just because it was done somewhere else, it definitely doesnt mean that it's right...

 

[gojo]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

I still am amazed at some of the comments I read on here. Career expectations is exactly what they had. Is it their fault Delta decided to jerk them around? And now you want to stick it to them again. Classy

 

[Simon Says]

Oh, please no! That's the most uncomfortble POS I have ever ridden on. The rock hard seats, noise, and the seatback velcro pulling my hair out is just unbearable.
All that and being imprisoned on board for about ten minutes after landing until they feel it safe to let you off this bucket of bolts is simply unbearable. These things need to be turned into razor blades asap.

HEY, thats the SAAB you are talking about. I think its a better ride than the 200, but obviously louder.

As to where the Saabs are going in the Delta system, I really hope to see a reduction on MEM and an increase in ATL. Since the merger there has been a slow shift of connections through ATL instead of MEM.

 

[GOULET!]

You really need an additional 130+ Saab FOs in LGA?

WOW. Welcome back to your sh*tty job at Mesaba, now you get to commute to LGA to sit reserve on the Saab.

 

[On Your Six]

Well as of this moment none of the companies have any furloughs, so that no longer is an issue.

If there were any at the announcement of the merger, they will likely be at the bottom of the list via arbitration.


OYS

 

[CptMurf]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

I doubt you would say the same if you were one of the furloughees.

 

[LearLove]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

So in another 10 to 15 years when you have 15 years at your company and they sell/merge your aircraft to a "partner airline", lay you off, give your job to a kid that is in the 6th grade right now, and "tac" you on to the bottom of the list it will be OK, right?

What goes around comes around.....

 

[AiRegency]

So in another 10 to 15 years when you have 15 years at your company and they sell/merge your aircraft to a "partner airline", lay you off, give your job to a kid that is in the 6th grade right now, and "tac" you on to the bottom of the list it will be OK, right?

Yep. Them's are the breaks. Welcome to the industry.

 

[DoinTime]

So in another 10 to 15 years when you have 15 years at your company and they sell/merge your aircraft to a "partner airline", lay you off, give your job to a kid that is in the 6th grade right now, and "tac" you on to the bottom of the list it will be OK, right?

What goes around comes around.....

So you think its fair for people who don't bring a job into a merger to get equal treat with those that do bring a job? Someone on here said it before, seniority integration is a fixed quantity. In order for one pilot to do better, someone else has to do worse.

 

[Yodafly]

The recall should not affect SLI. Its a snapshot on date of purchase. Any changes that happen after that point are not considered. AKA Colgan new hires changing the relative position of the colgan pilots for the better.

 

[callowayhd]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

Mesaba Airlines had a lot more career expectation than pinnacle. You should not be gloating about how pinnacle bought Mesaba and that they should be stapled. Furloughed or not there are many Mesaba pilots who went there over pinnacle because of career expectations. The flow through being the biggest factor in giving ALL Mesaba pilots higher career expectations than any other pinnacle pilot.

In an industry where oil is playing a huge role, who really saved who? Mesaba who is brining 41 crj900s with a Saab fleet that might not be as dead as everyone thought because of its fuel efficiency, or pinnacle who operates 120 or more crj200s which will be out the door ASAP. Even Colgan brings more opportunities for flying than pinnacle airlines with their Q400's.

Just because Pinnacle holdings shares the name with Pinnacle airlines, does not mean your airline bought Mesaba. Mesaba airlines, Colgan airlines and Pinnacle airlines, are all under the same holdings company, get off your pinnacle airlines high horse because they are bringing the most liability to the table with this merger.

Unfortunately large RJ flying in the future of the regionals, add to that turboprops that can replace 50 seat flying and Pinnacle airline pilots are lucky that they aquired both Colgan and MEsaba, not the other way around.

 

[altimaklr]

Ya except the 9E CR2's are some of the newest in the world and are under contract til at least 2018. When the last delta CR2 flight lands it will more than likely be a Pinnacle plane. Next?

 

[DoinTime]

Just because Pinnacle holdings shares the name with Pinnacle airlines, does not mean your airline bought Mesaba. Mesaba airlines, Colgan airlines and Pinnacle airlines, are all under the same holdings company, get off your pinnacle airlines high horse because they are bringing the most liability to the table with this merger.

Who bought Big Sky?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Who bought Big Sky?

Nobody, when Mair holdings failed to use them to bust the Mesaba union and contract, Mair simply sold off their assets and payed out the shairholders and ceased to exist.