FUD at Flight Options

[B19 Flyer]

You're right brother. My "solidarity on a message board" comment was made tongue in cheek.

But let's not get side tracked. The point is a moderator (who would know) has confirmed he crossed a picket line. That makes him filth.

One effective course of action might be to consistently refer to him in the third person. That will be madding for him. Refuted and disputed never acknowledged. Kind of like picking up a piece of dog s**t with a hankie and tossing it in the rubbish.

Gerry, I think of all union supporters in the third person because they all rely on somebody else to speak for them.

Oh, and there is no way that I could have crossed a picket line, even if I wanted to. All the union actions I've been involved with I was in management and not flying, but that still didn't stop me from getting laid off and despising unions just that much more.

 

[Hobbes]

Gerry, I think of all union supporters in the third person because they all rely on somebody else to speak for them.

Oh, and there is no way that I could have crossed a picket line, even if I wanted to. All the union actions I've been involved with I was in management and not flying, but that still didn't stop me from getting laid off and despising unions just that much more.

Oops wrong again ALPO for brains. In a union we don't let someone else speak for us, we have banded together to speak as one. The union IS the pilots...without one voice, corrupt management is able to continue to practice deceipt and oppression.

We won't take too much credence on anything that you say about your own past because you have already admitted to being two faced and posting with various "alter" egos on here to further your evil agenda.

PS - good luck with your misinformation campaign. Wow, I hope you spend as much time involved with that other utopian non-union airline where you supposedly work as you do trying to damage the careers of the pilots who work at Flight Options.

 

[Fozzy]

And what is wrong with that?

Gerry, I think of all union supporters in the third person because they all rely on somebody else to speak for them.

First off, that "somebody else" is actually all the pilots speaking. We just choose to do it as one voice. I think the collective voice of 2800 pilots has a he!l of a lot more pull than your lonely voice.
Keep throwing those insults, I find them pretty funny.:laugh:

 

[B19 Flyer]

So, which statement is the lie? This...

HaaaHaaaa! Or this...


Were fractionals a "free for all" before they were "born"? You're funny!

My take is that all your posts are lies. You are a joke.

If they were not a free for all, the DOT and FAA would not have stepped in to regulate them in February of 2005. There were no rest rules, no operating or maintenance standards beyond Part 91.

Futhermore, if the model was a great way to make money, why are there only 18 sets of management specs issued in the US? (and you need to ask yourself how and why I know that)

It's an unproven business model in it's current regulatory state that has not shown a high degree of profitablity. Unions will not help the fractional industry.

And one last thing, none of my posts are lies. I gave the link to prove that fractionals did not exist in their current state until February of 2005, and I'm not laughing or calling you names.

 

[B19 Flyer]

First off, that "somebody else" is actually all the pilots speaking. We just choose to do it as one voice. I think the collective voice of 2800 pilots has a he!l of a lot more pull than your lonely voice.
Keep throwing those insults, I find them pretty funny.:laugh:

From what I've seen in any other union I've been around, it's a small percentage of pilots that are the voice (the MEC) and a the rest just give in because they will be forced to at some point. Furthermore, at FLOPS, only 2/3 of the pilots voted for the union.

If true, that means 1/3 of the pilots are not in the same lock-step as those that are, thus it is not one singular voice as you seem to state above.

 

[Hobbes]

Futhermore, if the model was a great way to make money, why are there only 18 sets of management specs issued in the US? (and you need to ask yourself how and why I know that)

Oh, it's the ALL POWERFUL WIZARD OF OZ, who won't come out from behind the curtain. OOOHHHH. Tremble, tremble.

Could you know that because you are BOB TYLER and FUD and HARRASSMENT fed you that data? Me thinks this is likely.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Oops wrong again ALPO for brains. In a union we don't let someone else speak for us, we have banded together to speak as one. The union IS the pilots...without one voice, corrupt management is able to continue to practice deceipt and oppression.

We won't take too much credence on anything that you say about your own past because you have already admitted to being two faced and posting with various "alter" egos on here to further your evil agenda.

PS - good luck with your misinformation campaign. Wow, I hope you spend as much time involved with that other utopian non-union airline where you supposedly work as you do trying to damage the careers of the pilots who work at Flight Options.

As stated before, I'm only here because I enjoy the debate. Unions have destroyed as many careers as they have helped.
I have the time because there is no union for me to have to fuss with.

When I post, it's not for those that post against me, it's for those that sit silently on the sideline. The ones that post against me like you have already drank the kool-aid and are beyond saving.

 

[fischman]

Everyone pay heed!!!

B19 has spoken!!!

Fractionals did not exist until 2005.

It must be true because B19 SAID SO!!!


Hey all, if you weren't working for a frac before 2005, what were you working for?

B19, your arrogance is staggering. :nuts:

 

[B19 Flyer]

Oh, it's the ALL POWERFUL WIZARD OF OZ, who won't come out from behind the curtain. OOOHHHH. Tremble, tremble.

Could you know that because you are BOB TYLER and FUD and HARRASSMENT fed you that data? Me thinks this is likely.

You didn't answer the question.

Why are there so few fractionals if it is a successful business model, and why aren't the existing ones just overflowing with cash and record profits? For the amount of aircraft NJ has, the profit is pretty meager by corporate standards. And the rest are pretty much getting by. Do you really believe union intervention is going to help the industry?

Even the Wizard of Oz broke things down to the most simplistic issues. Magic wasn't needed in that fantasy movie was it? Unions won't create the magic you think they will. Be careful what you ask for...

 

[Fozzy]

If true, that means 1/3 of the pilots are not in the same lock-step as those that are, thus it is not one singular voice as you seem to state above.

So are you having a hard time running FLOPS with only 30% of the pilots as team players???:crying:

Just kidding Bob.

As a stats thing, 66% is pretty big. Hell that is landslide in the world of politics.
I think, and this is a guess, that number is a bit higher now. Some guys are scared of the unknown. Would make for an interesting study to see how many FLOPS guys feel better with a Union.

Oh and as far as the MEC being the small % and voice, you are a little off base.