Frontier Jumpseat?

[snozberry]

I recently heard that Frontier is now making jumpseaters subject to inspection per the TSA's directive on personal non-rev travelers. Can anyone confirm this for me? I was told that jumpseaters will now receive the ***** code (the code for pre board screening) on their request card and they will have to go through secondary screening prior to boarding. I have also been told that they are enforcing the 3.5oz liquid rule during this secondary screening regardless of your uniform since they no commuters are not traveling on official business. Can anyone verify this for me.

 

[flyboycmsu]

The rumor is true, it happened to a friend this weekend. He had to run back to security to get screened, got his shaving cream taken, all while in uniform. Anybody know what the deal is?

 

[Shrek]

Another reason to spend a week in the Southwest............wink

 

[terryhfly]

It is true for those that dont list prior to getting to the gate. I don't know much else right now. I am trying to get more info from our jumpseat chairman and I will pass on any info I get.

 

[Way2Broke]

Post the listing number?

 

[F9 Driver]

800-432-1359

 

[flyf15]

I have also been told that they are enforcing the 3.5oz liquid rule during this secondary screening regardless of your uniform since they no commuters are not traveling on official business.

Although I totally believe it, that is completely rediculous. You can buy liquids on the other side of security!! They're allowed on aircraft!

Friggen TSA idiots. So now, any passenger can carry a bottle of water on an airplane, but I myself... a badged uniformed 121 air carrier pilot... cannot?

 

[Mama's Boy]

It happened to me on Frontier out of Denver and I listed ahead of time. I politely complied and returned to security. The TSA actually told me they thought the whole thing was ridiculous and did not take away any liquids(I was in uniform). In all fairness to Frontier, I have heard of this happening on other airlines.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

I had the same thing happen on Sun Country. Didn't list at the ticket counter, so I got the extra screening right in the boarding area in front of pax. Other than that to SC folks were super nice and I actually got a sandwich on the flight.

 

[climb2slow]

For what it's worth, our jumpseat committee reps are working hard with the company to ammend this interpretation of the the TSA directive. In the mean time it is recommended that you list in advance on the listing number (1-800-432-1359) and receive a pnr, and book your listing round trip even if you only are headed one way. This should avoid this annoying hassle.

 

[F9 Driver]

Our JS committee says they have it fixed as of today with some TSA directive to the Frontier security people. It should be communicated to the gate agents today too.

Good luck.

 

[climb2slow]

you beat me to it 'driver', i heard that same thing today...nice to know that issue is behind us now!

 

[skydiverdriver2]

Isn't that code a secret? Why did you post it on a non-secure information board?

 

[Way2Broke]

Just a note, Frontier uses a CASS system that uses two letter codes. If you fly for a airline that has a 3-letter code it doesn't work. I know its not important to everyone, but it is to some of us. Viva Denver!

 

[FLYBOYMATTHEW]

Just curious, but why are you showing the TSA your boarding pass with the SSSS on it anyway? Are they requiring it to get through the security checkpoint? I can't remember the last time I needed a boarding pass to get through security while in uniform.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

TSA shouldn't be taking away your stuff-this was fixed (supposedly) on Day 1 of the liquids ban.

JS is NOT working, but you are JS TO and FROM work, so you need your liquids.

If TSA tried to take them from me, I would explain. If they're insistant, give them up, and get a badge number and supervisor's info to contact them later-they aren't allowed to take your stuff.

I always go straight through security (unless I'm checking a bag). GRB, PNS and either LRD or ELP (and the AA terminal of DFW) require you to get a gate pass at the counter. All of the TSA people at these airports claim it's a "nationwide" rule. Obviously not, since the other 20/30 airports I JS at don't require it.

Oh, and I HAVE been ******* either in GRB or on a paid ticket. Some gate agents will remove it, others won't. It's very random (ex: I had a NWA gate guy say they can't remove the *****, and then the next time a different guy removed it without me even asking him).

cliff
ABQ

 

[KingNothing]

I've been using Frontier for a long time jumpseating and never has been a problem. Just keep your boarding pass/paperwork tucked away and list at the gate like you came in from a connecting flight. All F9 captains laugh at it and could care less

 

[skydiverdriver2]

Just a note, Frontier uses a CASS system that uses two letter codes. If you fly for a airline that has a 3-letter code it doesn't work. I know its not important to everyone, but it is to some of us. Viva Denver!

All airlines use a two letter code for CASS. Perhaps you are confusing it with the three letter code that airlines use to file flight plans with ATC. But, that is a completely different animal. I doubt many gate agents would even know what that was.

The code I was referring to in my earlier post was the four letter code they put on your boarding pass, telling the TSA that you should get special screening. I believe that is a secret and should not be put on a public message board.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Way2Broke]

Sorry but your wrong. CASS recognizes 2 and 3 letter airline codes. My airline only has a 3 letter code and it works with some but not all CASS systems. For example, NWA's system recognizes three letter CASS code and my studly picture pops right up, with US Airways, no luck. United take the three letter code, Jet Blue takes it, Frontier does not. It all depends on which software the airline is using to feed it's CASS system. So when the system is not compatible I must sit in the back. Which is where I end up 99 percent of the time anyways.

All airlines use a two letter code for CASS. Perhaps you are confusing it with the three letter code that airlines use to file flight plans with ATC. But, that is a completely different animal. I doubt many gate agents would even know what that was.

The code I was referring to in my earlier post was the four letter code they put on your boarding pass, telling the TSA that you should get special screening. I believe that is a secret and should not be put on a public message board.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

W2Broke's 3-letter CASS code is "JUS".

There are 5 airlines, total, I believe, that have a 3 letter code.

NWA's CASS system displays the airlines in a list.

AWA's, for example, has a data-entry box for only 2 letters, so USA Jet pilots (and the other 4 with a 3-letter code) can't be IDd in CASS with the AWA software.

cliff
ABQ