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I'm a new hire and was wondering how the commute to/from DEN / FLL is? How many F9 pilots commute to/from FLL, approx.? With 1 flight a day, it looks like the options are limited. Is there a plan to add additional flights?

Thanks, Sluggo
 

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Southwest should add more options for you when they start up next year, they plan to fly to FLL as one of their routes, as well as MCO,TPA from DEN.
 

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sluggo said:
I'm a new hire and was wondering how the commute to/from DEN / FLL is? How many F9 pilots commute to/from FLL, approx.? With 1 flight a day, it looks like the options are limited. Is there a plan to add additional flights?

Thanks, Sluggo
Hi Sluggo,

FLL is a tough nut. Lot's of commuters across all of the airlines. Your might have to 2 leg it to give yourself more options.

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Be sure to leave a day in advance. There was one guy trying to do it last year and playing with crew scheduling...they weren't in a game playing mood.
Your safest bet is to move to Denver.
 

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Sluggo,

Congrats! You can do the FLL thing as long as u have some backups. Just buy one or two (open) Positive space tickets for a backup. You should not be on reserve for more than a couple months but I will be honest, Reserve is great for people who live in DEN not for people who commute. In fact, it might make you dislike your job. That is exactly what happened to the last FLL guy. He got forced to resign b4 his year was up. He was also a complainer and missed a couple of trips.

BTW, have they mentioned anything about a commuter policy?

Cya
 

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One of the guys brought up commuting to the union guy...(forget his name)...when he was talking to our class, & it didn't seem like a good subject to talk about. It got a bit heated...The subject was dropped quickly & we moved on...to CASS & that was dropped quickly also...
 

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Heyas,

I don't really see what draws people to FLL anyway. If you're from here, or maybe have had a house for 15 years, that's one thing. But to move here and not want to leave after a few years is nuts.

High prices, high property taxes, crappy local school systems, incompetent local governement, and crowded roads. You bake in the summer, and have to deal with the crowds of rude people in the winter. If you live west of I-95, what's the point? It's not like you ever go the beach anyway...you might as well live in Atlanta.

It's not like any of us make enough to have a boat, and even if you do, there's no where in FLL to keep it affordably.

You can't sell your house unless you move out of the area and expect to get an equally nice abode because of the retarded homstead exemption.

But whatever...

Nu
 

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Maybe my mother is in FLL in ICU and needs her son to take care of her. Serously, I have a home there & a home in Denver. I am planning to spend some time there this winter on my boat...Thanks for your comments..Sluggo
 
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sluggo said:
Maybe my mother is in FLL in ICU and needs her son to take care of her. Serously, I have a home there & a home in Denver. I am planning to spend some time there this winter on my boat...Thanks for your comments..Sluggo
Well, then, that would be a legitimate reason to put up with this place. Sometimes you do what you have to.

But for people who don't "need" to be here, there are certainly more attractive places, both economically and envriomentally.

Nu
 

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You have got to be kidding? FLL not as you put it "economically and envriomentally" cheap? you think that Denver is? you must live in the boonies, For one thing from what I saw in Denver is piss poor house builds at 3 times the cost of a similar house built way better in FL. I use to live in FL, Tampa, and had a 3500 sq. ft house that cost me $300,000, try getting that size of a house in Denver for that cost or even close to that cost , and on top of that, FL has no state income tax unlike Denver, heck, I get charged tax for the privilage of working in DEN and I don't even live there, so, I still think that this guy does not need a reason to live where he wants to, but don't harp on FLL just because you think DEN is soo great, which it is not
 

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ex-nutjeter said:
You have got to be kidding? FLL not as you put it "economically and envriomentally" cheap? you think that Denver is? you must live in the boonies, For one thing from what I saw in Denver is piss poor house builds at 3 times the cost of a similar house built way better in FL. I use to live in FL, Tampa, and had a 3500 sq. ft house that cost me $300,000, try getting that size of a house in Denver for that cost or even close to that cost , and on top of that, FL has no state income tax unlike Denver, heck, I get charged tax for the privilage of working in DEN and I don't even live there, so, I still think that this guy does not need a reason to live where he wants to, but don't harp on FLL just because you think DEN is soo great, which it is not

Ex-nutjeter,

You missed my point. I don't know anything about Denver, and I'm certainly not defending it. If it's anything like Minneapolis, it's horribly overpriced for what is basically a great hilly, dusty praire that might be convienent to some skiing (which is more than MSP has).

What my point is what FLL is even worse.

In the last few years, SoFL is has gotten WAY, WAY out of line. You want something on the water? You start north of $1 million for a shack only fit for demolition. You want a nice 1800 sq ft 3/2 built in 1961, somewhere other than the swamp, and you are going to pay $500-600k with property tax that will more that eat up any savings that no income tax provides.

Anything newer or with more square footage you can forget about unless you are looking to pay $750k upwards.

BTW, have you been back to Tampa lately to price out some real estate? Chances are you couldn't buy back your old house.

BTW, I'm a native of SoFL, so I can say whatever I want about it. I've earned that right.

Nu
 

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Denver is way cheaper. At least you can find houses under 300K.
 

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ex-nutjeter said:
You have got to be kidding? FLL not as you put it "economically and envriomentally" cheap? you think that Denver is? you must live in the boonies, For one thing from what I saw in Denver is piss poor house builds at 3 times the cost of a similar house built way better in FL. I use to live in FL, Tampa, and had a 3500 sq. ft house that cost me $300,000, try getting that size of a house in Denver for that cost or even close to that cost , and on top of that, FL has no state income tax unlike Denver, heck, I get charged tax for the privilage of working in DEN and I don't even live there, so, I still think that this guy does not need a reason to live where he wants to, but don't harp on FLL just because you think DEN is soo great, which it is not
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Congrats sluggo...now how about my letter of rec;) for that matter, anyone have a letter of rec available for me to get onboard ??????

Denver is GREAT....ok, well south of Denver is GREAT! Prices are pretty out of control here for what you get, i will admit that. Crazy thing is, it is actually cheaper to live in the mountains here than it is in the plains (around the denver metro area). Oh well, you pay for the views i guess...and they are pretty nice.

So again, any recs for me to get my shot at F9?........anyone. I will keep fishing until i get a bite.

By the way, where do most of the F9 guys hang out while on reserve or after a long hard couple of days...maybe i can network a little.
 

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Animaltale,

You wrote: "You should not be on reserve for more than a couple months..."

Please don't give out false info to the new guys. I've been on reserve for almost 18 months and I expect a few more. Where on earth do you get 2 months from??
 

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Timing is everything

As we all know, timing is everything. Someone hired at the start of this hiring wave (as it sounds like Sluggo was) will likely be off reserve in just a few months if the company maintains it's hiring schedule. Some people here have spent just one month on Reserve, so it's not always bad. I was fortunate in this regard too, I suppose.
 

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TooLow said:
Animaltale,

You wrote: "You should not be on reserve for more than a couple months..."

Please don't give out false info to the new guys. I've been on reserve for almost 18 months and I expect a few more. Where on earth do you get 2 months from??
I believe AnimalTale is right for the latest classes - I've been on reserve the same amount of time, but I think the people coming through now won't be on reserve more than a couple of months due to the number of classes planned...timing is everything for you and me...:rolleyes:
 

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NuGuy said:
What my point is what FLL is even worse.

In the last few years, SoFL is has gotten WAY, WAY out of line. You want something on the water? You start north of $1 million for a shack only fit for demolition. You want a nice 1800 sq ft 3/2 built in 1961, somewhere other than the swamp, and you are going to pay $500-600k with property tax that will more that eat up any savings that no income tax provides.

BTW, I'm a native of SoFL, so I can say whatever I want about it. I've earned that right.
This is what I tell folks when they ask why I still have a house near Tucson and my work is in FL. It isn't worth it to me to sell the place and buy one in FL. Renting an apartment is far cheaper and I'm not there all that much anyway.

I also have the same notions about SoCal as you do about FL as I was a native there and lived there the first 35 years of my life.
 
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