Frontier Culture gone bad???

[Porch]

Capt's are turning in & wrighting up FO's. FO's are writing up & turning in Capt's to the CP...Yes the Chief Pilot! What happened to the proper chain of command????? I guess just sit there now & keep your mouth shut for fear of being turned in & getting a call from the CP. The great culture is'nt what is advertised....What's up with this?

No Flame bait............

 

[SpiderMan]

Drunk post? :beer:

 

[SuperLoser121]

I wish, it has actually happened.....

 

[flightimer]

Crm?????

maybe it's lack of CRM, just an opinion.

 

[32LT10]

I was at TK recently and heard some horror stories about this very issue from the UAL training dept about Frontier. Thought it just rumor but sounds like it might be true.

 

[F9 Driver]

Every company has its few percent. Without the details of what went on... how do you guys know enough to comment?

And as far as getting Frontier info from the United school house - You're kidding right?!?!?!?

 

[32LT10]

Every company has its few percent. Without the details of what went on... how do you guys know enough to comment?

And as far as getting Frontier info from the United school house - You're kidding right?!?!?!?

I am serious. We were doing a day2 of the PC when the PI was telling us about some issues at F9. His story was very similar to what was posted earlier and various other things which I would not bring up without confirmation. I thought it was just the den bias coming from the guys at TK.

 

[Andy]

Every company has its few percent. Without the details of what went on... how do you guys know enough to comment?

And as far as getting Frontier info from the United school house - You're kidding right?!?!?!?

The 5% rule is alive and well at every company.

F9 Driver, how many occurences have there been? Are we talking just a couple of writeups, or is this trend spreading?

I find it hard to believe that this is widespread.

 

[ex-nutjeter]

Thats funny, there has even been instances of capt.'s tattle tattling on other capt.'s to the CP, have never been around soo many whiners about such little stuff, ie. mostly uniform or other small stuff that should be taken care of amongst each other. Without posting names, I remember a capt. talking in the crew room about how another capt. tattled to the CP about him having rolled up sleeves, then this same capt. who thought he just did such a great deed, ends up blowing the raft at the emergency exit while inspecting for ice on the wings with passengers on board

Karma, thats about it

 

[Whine Lover]

What a bunch of little K unts.

I can't wait to remove myself from the ranks of A ss Wipes that have the audacity to call themselves "Pilots".

FU2


YKW

 

[Shrek]

I can assure you this is in the minority......F9 is by far a great work culture to spend a career.

Frontier has a pro-standards committee ......that is where these things should be cleared up if amongst the crew does not work......in my opinion

 

[F9 Driver]

The 5% rule is alive and well at every company.

F9 Driver, how many occurences have there been? Are we talking just a couple of writeups, or is this trend spreading?

I find it hard to believe that this is widespread.

I just got off the phone with the union folks, and these are just a couple of isolated write-ups that have gotten a bunch of internal buzz. :crying: The FAPA pro standards committee has gotten some press lately, and should help to head off these type of events.:uzi:

This job is what you make of it. If you choose to focus on the whining your days will be LOOOOOONG and painful.:bawling:

Act like adults, do your jobs, go home, and enjoy your lives.:beer:

 

[bestpilot]

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[FN FAL]

What a bunch of little K unts.

I can't wait to remove myself from the ranks of A ss Wipes that have the audacity to call themselves "Pilots".

FU2


YKW

Why do you think I like the single pilot world. No brains, no headaches.

 

[jetalc]

Thats funny, there has even been instances of capt.'s tattle tattling on other capt.'s to the CP, have never been around soo many whiners about such little stuff, ie. mostly uniform or other small stuff that should be taken care of amongst each other. Without posting names, I remember a capt. talking in the crew room about how another capt. tattled to the CP about him having rolled up sleeves, then this same capt. who thought he just did such a great deed, ends up blowing the raft at the emergency exit while inspecting for ice on the wings with passengers on board

Karma, thats about it

Oh God - he's back.

There have been isolated incidents of people going directly to the CP office - so?

Pro Standards is there when someone wants to "work it out" - there are select people that should not be flying. Period. Pro Standards does a great job helping those who want a solution other than "tattle tattling" (Ex-Nutjob's words, not mine), but it is always an individual pilot's prerogative to go to whomever they want for a solution. So, the Chief Pilots are approachable - how does that translate to some sort of undermining of the awesome F9 culture? Something about mountains and molehills....