Frontier Airlines becomes Wholly Owned subsidary of Republic

[MikeSF340]

This makes NO sense. They are going to be in DIRECT competition with ALL their mainline partners. How can they expect that United, Continental, Delta, American, US Air, etc are going to stand for this? These airlines will now be directly paying the competition! Something does not add up.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Well if the plan is to make a stand alone airline this is exactly what they want.

Wonder if this might violate one of the mainline carriers' scope clauses. I seem to remember that was one of the ways UAL worked to kill Indy Air. Indy could not operate the 320's because they violated UAL scope, but UAL would not release ACA (parent of Indy Air) from their obligations for express service, unless ACA paid very high penalties to get out. This effectively bled ACA dry. Does this look like a possibility? 'Cause RP needs to be stopped.uke:

Peace.

Rekks

 

[pa31capt]

I'm sure RAH has already talked to their codeshare partners. I don't see them putting their flying at risk to make this happen. BB is a pretty smart guy.

 

[lookin4better]

It would be nice to see them cancel all the RAH contracts....Many mainline/legacy jobs at UAL/DAL would be saved if those 170/175/190 's would no longer be flying mainline routes or painted in UAL/DAL colors. Let RAH give it a try..... they will fizzle like Independence Air.

 

[ilinipilot]

Can I ask an Honest question? Where is the outrage at the credit card companies that drove F9 into bankruptcy. Their ********************ty rules let them rape the airlines, send them to bankrupcty and get sold.

 

[samballs]

Wonder if this might violate one of the mainline carriers' scope clauses. I seem to remember that was one of the ways UAL worked to kill Indy Air. Indy could not operate the 320's because they violated UAL scope, but UAL would not release ACA (parent of Indy Air) from their obligations for express service, unless ACA paid very high penalties to get out. This effectively bled ACA dry. Does this look like a possibility? 'Cause RP needs to be stopped.uke:

Peace.

Rekks

ACA 320 were on the ACA cert. thats how it was a violation. The 320's at frontier would be on the frontier cert. which does not fly for anyone. This is why mesa and the pole smokers own so many certificates. Wow never thought there would be a day a mesa pilot could hold his head higher than a RP pilot

 

[flynryan15]

It would be nice to see them cancel all the RAH contracts....Many mainline/legacy jobs at UAL/DAL would be saved if those 170/175/190 's would no longer be flying mainline routes or painted in UAL/DAL colors. Let RAH give it a try..... they will fizzle like Independence Air.

INDY started with a bunch of CRJ-200 while waiting for a few Airbus. As of right now Republic has 137 E-170/175, 2 E-195, 10 A-320, 49 A-319, 11 A-318, 60 E-145, 15 E-140 13 Crj-200, and 10 Q-400's. That is a entirely different ball game and honestly it is a little concerning!

 

[samballs]

Can I ask an Honest question? Where is the outrage at the credit card companies that drove F9 into bankruptcy. Their ********************ty rules let them rape the airlines, send them to bankrupcty and get sold.

Half of them are owned by the Govt. and we're all sick of bitching about the Govt. already, and the Govt. ain't going to yell at its self.

 

[deadstick]

The Borg is an understatement... It is more like a new Flu strain

No, RAH is the plague. Any guesses as to who is the rat spreading the disease throughout our industry and quickly killing it?

 

[BoilerUP]

Its entirely probably that Bedford & Co. knew UAL and/or DAL were going to terminate or vastly reduce their agreements by the end of the year, and that Midwest unfortunately has very little chance of remaining in business.

This is simply a hedging of bets, designed to give shareholders SOME value when their contract lift starts evaporating.