Fresh New Colgan Rumor

[Turtlesfly]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LodgeX!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Suupah beat me to it . . . we just got them and it has been a CLUSTER! All sorts of emails from management about how they're trying to solve the problem but they can't because XJT doesn't control things directly anymore. You show up at a hotel and scheduling (good luck getting through to them) has to fax stuff to them and then they tell you to just sit and wait and you can never actually talk to those people.

Wait, here it comes again . . . . LodgeX

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Mr Wu]

No reservations made half the time, piss poor Customer Service... and if it is an unscheduled overnight, it will usually take 2 hours to get the room set up on a good night.

So, what exactly will change?

 

[Prop2Jet]

this is just getting worse by the minute. China looks good right about now. At least over their I can have my own box and lantern at nights....

 

[Godfather]

So, what exactly will change?

everything!!! This company makes priceline.com look real good. LGX is terrible. Just read on. Most of their Customer Service is outsourced to outside countries like India. Colgan did a really nice job of providing outstation hotels (nice hotels too!) at a good rate and guaranteeing ground transportation.

Now that Peanuckle has taken over, things are a changing!

Another reason to have a Collective Barganing Agreement via ALPA. Just be sure to have a section for hotels, transportation and overnights along with a Hotel and Scheduling Committee. I'm sure the XJT group will tell ya how bad LGX is.

 

[Mr Wu]

and guaranteeing ground transportation

You're kidding, right?

 

[Godfather]

You're kidding, right?

yep...I was kidding...100 mile cab to get to where you are suppose to be? been there done that...and it's gonna get worse now...

 

[YMICFI]

Changes

So much for "nothing's gonna change." The Colgans said nothing will change in being bought out. This is one small sign that things are going to. Watch for more exits and and changes. This is why we need ALPA. Just ask any Pinnacle pilot how they are treated by management and you will know that things will get worse without professional representation and a legally binding contract with a grievance procedure.

Ballots coming out soon. Vote YES and let's make it better!

 

[theo]

The company...and management are at the pit...NOT the pilots..

I take it you have worked at the carriers you rank last? Why so much jumping around between carriers?

 

[Fred Rogers]

So much for "nothing's gonna change." The Colgans said nothing will change in being bought out. This is one small sign that things are going to. Watch for more exits and and changes. This is why we need ALPA. Just ask any Pinnacle pilot how they are treated by management and you will know that things will get worse without professional representation and a legally binding contract with a grievance procedure.

Ballots coming out soon. Vote YES and let's make it better!

I think this highlights the bottom line.

THE COLGAN'S ARE NOT IN CHARGE


They will all be taking their payday and hitting the highway very soon.

 

[ifly34]

You guys kill me! One of the biggest complaints has been about how people would have issues with getting a hotel room or even a ride to the hotel. The Colgans have actually listened to you and done something about it by hiring an outside company to do this so we won't have to wait for a ride or show at a hotel and not have a room booked. But you have turned this into the "Colgans are not in control anymore" and "this is the beginning of the end". They have done something to try to alleviate one of the biggest complaints and all you do is complain. Either you are drinking too much ALPA coolaid or you are IDIOTS!

 

[BirdCatcher]

You guys kill me! One of the biggest complaints has been about how people would have issues with getting a hotel room or even a ride to the hotel. The Colgans have actually listened to you and done something about it by hiring an outside company to do this so we won't have to wait for a ride or show at a hotel and not have a room booked. But you have turned this into the "Colgans are not in control anymore" and "this is the beginning of the end". They have done something to try to alleviate one of the biggest complaints and all you do is complain. Either you are drinking too much ALPA coolaid or you are IDIOTS!

Hmmm management calling Colgan pilots a bunch of idiots, I think that explains why we are in the situation we are in the first place.

BTW most of the posts complaining about LodgeX are pilots from other airlines who use their service.

 

[ifly34]

Hmmm management calling Colgan pilots a bunch of idiots, I think that explains why we are in the situation we are in the first place.

BTW most of the posts complaining about LodgeX are pilots from other airlines who use their service.

Why do I have to be management? Just because I don't believe what you believe?

Why weren't those other companies complaining before this showed up?

I'm sure LodgeX told Colgan a lot of good stuff about themselves just to get the contract. I'm sure they never told them anything bad. Hmmm, I wonder what other organizations use this tactic???

 

[BirdCatcher]

Why do I have to be management? Just because I don't believe what you believe?

Why weren't those other companies complaining before this showed up?

I'm sure LodgeX told Colgan a lot of good stuff about themselves just to get the contract. I'm sure they never told them anything bad. Hmmm, I wonder what other organizations use this tactic???

Your management because of your job title.

They were/are, just not on here. The Colgan announcement on here triggered the responses.

Colgan uses that tactic, so does ALPA. It's up to the individual to decide which is shoveling the least. BTW ALPA never said pilots at Colgan are a bunch of idiots.

 

[Prop2Jet]

Ifly34

dude you have NO clue what it going on online. You need to just drink your cup of shut the hell up and be on your merry way. Colgan does not care about you or us. Hence, ALPA. At least now when someone has an issue we will be heard by someone who at least pretends to care. Sad, I know.
I can't believe I wasted my time to respond to you.

 

[ifly34]

Your management because of your job title.

They were/are, just not on here. The Colgan announcement on here triggered the responses.

Colgan uses that tactic, so does ALPA. It's up to the individual to decide which is shoveling the least. BTW ALPA never said pilots at Colgan are a bunch of idiots.

So PM me and tell me who I am! I'm curious.

So the other companies MEC let them do that to them?

And that is my point. Tactics have been used on ALPA side but no one seems to want to acknowledge that. Everyone wants to act as if ALPA does nothing wrong. Just don't be mad at ALPA when they disappoint you , because they didn't do it, the pilots did. That is the way they operate.

And to be specific, I did not call all Colgan pilots idiots. I didn't even call some Colgan pilots idiots. In fact, I did not call any Colgan pilots idiots. The people that would turn the hotel company announcement into "doom and gloom" when it is apparent the Colgans were trying to do something good. Regardless if they are a Colgan pilot or not. Thats who I was talking about. Because in my opinion, and my opinion only, they are idiots.

 

[ifly34]

Ifly34

dude you have NO clue what it going on online. You need to just drink your cup of shut the hell up and be on your merry way. Colgan does not care about you or us. Hence, ALPA. At least now when someone has an issue we will be heard by someone who at least pretends to care. Sad, I know.
I can't believe I wasted my time to respond to you.

Have you ever worked any where else? If you have it was obviously a great place. Me on the other hand have worked at other airlines and would consider Colgan a hell of a lot better place to work than some of the places I have worked. I'm sure you have heard some horror stories of some flight schools, part 135 outfits and other airlines. You just seem like someone pissed in your wheaties and you want the Colgans to pay for another box. ALPA, in my opinion, does not care about you, me or any Colgan pilot either. But they do care about our 1.95%. But you are correct on one thing. ALPA will only pretend to care.

 

[OnTheRocks]

You guys kill me! One of the biggest complaints has been about how people would have issues with getting a hotel room or even a ride to the hotel. The Colgans have actually listened to you and done something about it by hiring an outside company to do this so we won't have to wait for a ride or show at a hotel and not have a room booked. But you have turned this into the "Colgans are not in control anymore" and "this is the beginning of the end". They have done something to try to alleviate one of the biggest complaints and all you do is complain. Either you are drinking too much ALPA coolaid or you are IDIOTS!

please tell me you were under the influence when you wrote this

 

[suupah]

You guys kill me! One of the biggest complaints has been about how people would have issues with getting a hotel room or even a ride to the hotel. The Colgans have actually listened to you and done something about it by hiring an outside company to do this so we won't have to wait for a ride or show at a hotel and not have a room booked. But you have turned this into the "Colgans are not in control anymore" and "this is the beginning of the end". They have done something to try to alleviate one of the biggest complaints and all you do is complain. Either you are drinking too much ALPA coolaid or you are IDIOTS!

wow dude! I guess 76% of Colgan pilots (those who sent in their cards) are drinking too much alpa coolaid and are idiots and the 24% of which you belong are not drinking coolaid and are not idiots.

 

[suupah]

Have you ever worked any where else? If you have it was obviously a great place. Me on the other hand have worked at other airlines and would consider Colgan a hell of a lot better place to work than some of the places I have worked. I'm sure you have heard some horror stories of some flight schools, part 135 outfits and other airlines. You just seem like someone pissed in your wheaties and you want the Colgans to pay for another box. ALPA, in my opinion, does not care about you, me or any Colgan pilot either. But they do care about our 1.95%. But you are correct on one thing. ALPA will only pretend to care.

Small companies like Colgan are subsidized by the ALPA groups of big companies. they will NOT make money off of us. so their big interest in our 1.95% is not a valid arguement. HOWEVER what happens at Colgan affects the entire industry, THAT is there interest in us.

For example, I met an ex trans states now mainline pilot the other day. I told him that their 70 TP rate was figured into our "industry average" Q400 rate. He profusely apologized! I ensured him it wasn't his fault, but the point is, what happens at Colgan affects what happens at other places. I am sure when piedmont finally gets their Q400 rates they will have factored our rate into the equation.

We as professional airline pilots need to either not complain about anything or join in unity with other pilots to try to make it better.

IF you have another means that works better than ALPA to affect that change by all means tells us!

 

[jtrain609]

You guys kill me! One of the biggest complaints has been about how people would have issues with getting a hotel room or even a ride to the hotel. The Colgans have actually listened to you and done something about it by hiring an outside company to do this so we won't have to wait for a ride or show at a hotel and not have a room booked. But you have turned this into the "Colgans are not in control anymore" and "this is the beginning of the end". They have done something to try to alleviate one of the biggest complaints and all you do is complain. Either you are drinking too much ALPA coolaid or you are IDIOTS!

Just to let you know ifly that there have been attempted rapes at hotels that this new company has put its crews in.

Before this company was put in place the hotels the crew members were staying at, NEVER had a problem. Basically, they went from staying at a Hilton to a Motel 6. Also it can take up to two and a half hours for this company to book a hotel room, if they 'forget' which they do often.

If you listened to your pilots down there in IAH, you would see that the biggest complaint is a lack of a commuter clause.