Freedom loses all 50 seat flying for Delta.

[wmuflyguy]

Nope...from the DeltaNet:


We've canceled part of our Freedom Airline agreement
April 1, 2008



We have terminated a portion of our Delta Connection operating agreement with Freedom Airlines because of operational performance of their 50-seat aircraft. The move is effective immediately. Our operating agreement with Freedom for its 14 76-seat aircraft remains intact.
“When we began working with Freedom in October 2005, our goal was to extend the market service of Delta Connection while ensuring a mainline-like experience for our customers,” said Don Bornhorst, s.v.p.-Delta Connection. “Freedom’s agreement with Delta, similar to the agreements with all of our Delta Connection partners, reflects this requirement. We expect the operational pull down to be orderly and have minimal impact to our customers.”
Orlando and New York-JFK handle the majority of Freedom’s daily departures. Most customers will be rebooked through our hubs in Atlanta and Cincinnati. Some former Freedom point-to-point flights may continue and be supported by our other Delta Connection partners.

When I searched the site for "freedom" a link comes up with the first couple lines of the article...but clicking on link, it says

Document Unavailable

The requested document is currently not available due to technical reasons.

maybe someone on the inside was pulling an April fools joke...

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It is official. ASA is taking over your ops in MCO and ATL.(Well most of it)
DAL is making a point that if your company treats our customers like crud, we will exercise our rights in the contract.
I think that the 90 seat flying is more restricted, so DAL will have a harder time with that.

 

[standaman]

Interesting to see a portion of it on Delta Net. I searched it and got the fragment too.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

It is official. ASA is taking over your ops in MCO and ATL.(Well most of it)
DAL is making a point that if your company treats our customers like crud, we will exercise our rights in the contract.
I think that the 90 seat flying is more restricted, so DAL will have a harder time with that.

How long do you think ASA will keep that flying? With all the cuts Delta is making, I think ASA might be the last to operate DCI out of Orlando. No airframes are coming to you guys, so obviously ASA is loosing some flying to pick this up. Look at all the Mexico and Int'l flying that has been changed to Shuttle America.

I wouldn't be in a rush to move to Florida any time soon with this flying ASA just got. Cautious optimism sounds like a better idea.

 

[MooneyPilot]

I'm sure they are getting more JFK flying and CVG. DAL is reducing MCO flying 50% anyways.

 

[USCtrojan]

How long do you think ASA will keep that flying? With all the cuts Delta is making, I think ASA might be the last to operate DCI out of Orlando. No airframes are coming to you guys, so obviously ASA is loosing some flying to pick this up. Look at all the Mexico and Int'l flying that has been changed to Shuttle America.

I wouldn't be in a rush to move to Florida any time soon with this flying ASA just got. Cautious optimism sounds like a better idea.

ASA is gaining 4 CR200 airframes for the Florida flying. Possibly 2 700's for it, although Mr. Holt stated he didn't know where they were gonna put those yet (go into service May 1st from Comair). I'm not happy about getting airframes from Comair, but I am gleeful about taking over Mesa Dirtbag flying. Hopefully ASA can improve that record.

Trojan

 

[Jon Rivoli]

I suspect something more might be afoot. It's been real quite for too long.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I suspect something more might be afoot. It's been real quite for too long.

Jo probably offered to keep flying for Delta for free.

 

[sweptback]

Mesa's response:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080401/latu199.html?.v=10

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Typical...Another lawsuit.

 

[outtahere]

Down in flames! Woo Hoo! Burn baby burn!

 

[standaman]

No April Fools Joke

Reuters
Mesa Air says to fight Delta plan to quit contract
Tuesday April 1, 9:22 pm ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Mesa Air Group Inc (NasdaqGS:MESA - News) on Tuesday said it plans to contest Delta Air Lines Inc's (NYSE:DAL - News) plan to terminate a contract with its Freedom Airlines Inc unit.
Phoenix-based Mesa said Delta notified it on March 28 of its intent to terminate a connection agreement with Freedom dated May 3, 2005.
It said Delta alleged that Freedom failed to complete a specified number of flights on ERJ-145 jets during three months of the six-month period ending Feb 2008. Mesa said the notice would allow Freedom to keep providing connection services to Delta while the airlines work out a "transition agreement."
(Reporting by Jonathan Stempel; Editing by Gary Hill)

 

[dowhite2]

Here is the key paragraph:

"The alleged failure to maintain the specified completion rate in the contract is due to Delta's own request of Mesa to remove flights to benefit Delta's overall operation and/or to accommodate Delta mainline flights. These flights, among others, have always been taken out of Freedom's performance calculations in the past and Delta acted consistent with this practice and has paid Mesa both its base margin and its incentive margin after crediting Mesa for the Delta mandated schedule changes and /or cancellations."

Anyone who flies out of JFK for DCI (expecially during winter weather) will see almost ALL of their operations grind to a halt due to "delta commanded" cancellations. Delta is obviously reaching far out on a limb to get rid of 50 seat capacity and would rather it come from a connection carrier that they do not own. So who is the other primary operator out of JFK? Freedom, there you go.

This cancellation won't stand up in court, if it gets that far. I don't think it is coincidence the link on deltanet is now down.

 

[SSDD]

Aren't those cancellations what Skywest's lawsuit was about?

 

[pdub20s]

Down in flames! Woo Hoo! Burn baby burn!

Pilots losing jobs and lively hood are nothing to be excited about.

 

[pdub20s]

Here is the key paragraph:

"The alleged failure to maintain the specified completion rate in the contract is due to Delta's own request of Mesa to remove flights to benefit Delta's overall operation and/or to accommodate Delta mainline flights. These flights, among others, have always been taken out of Freedom's performance calculations in the past and Delta acted consistent with this practice and has paid Mesa both its base margin and its incentive margin after crediting Mesa for the Delta mandated schedule changes and /or cancellations."

Anyone who flies out of JFK for DCI (expecially during winter weather) will see almost ALL of their operations grind to a halt due to "delta commanded" cancellations. Delta is obviously reaching far out on a limb to get rid of 50 seat capacity and would rather it come from a connection carrier that they do not own. So who is the other primary operator out of JFK? Freedom, there you go.

This cancellation won't stand up in court, if it gets that far. I don't think it is coincidence the link on deltanet is now down.

I hope your right

 

[rickair7777]

Pilots losing jobs and lively hood are nothing to be excited about.

In this unique case it is. The industry will be better off, and the MAG pilots will be happier...even if they don't know it yet.

 

[pdub20s]

In this unique case it is. The industry will be better off, and the MAG pilots will be happier...even if they don't know it yet.

in that case. PM me the routing number to your checking account. so you can pay my bills and etc while i look for another job

 

[rickair7777]

in that case. PM me the routing number to your checking account. so you can pay my bills and etc while i look for another job

Sorry, JO already cost me two years of my life. But I'm glad I had enough sense to get out early enough to be halfway up somebody else's list.

I still think you'll be better off, give it a few months and see.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I hope your right

The rest of us will hope he is wrong. You have to understand that Mesa screwed many airlines, put pilots out of jobs, and devastated many other airline employees lifes in the process of getting to where Mesa finds themselves today.

I wish you well, but Mesa as a company needs to be banished from the planet.