Mrs_Boeing wrote...
We all wanted this so badly from jump street that had we been financially able to PFT we'd have done so. All of us. Period. Don't say "Not me!", yes YOU!!!!
Speak for yourself, Mrs. B.
I had the money for the greatest portion of my lifetime. I had it in the early nineties. I received good counsel from many high time captains, the gentlemen of the kind that every kid looks up to, and PFT was clearly not the right choice in their experienced opinions. If a 767 job is your personal holy grail in life, you need redemption, not a PFT program.
And as for the companies that require PFT, it's just smart financially. They are in business to make money, not supply you with a job just because you paid alot of money to learn to fly and now feel you are owed a position.
What an interesting perspective. To follow your logic to its inevitable conclusion, we should all be working for free beacuse there are so many of us that want a flying job, and there are doubtless enough low time pilots with money to pilot most of the jets in America. While it may be "financially smart" for some slimeball operator to offer a PFT program instead of stepping up to the plate and operating a business according to accepted standards (if you don't know what accepted standards are, contact your local Rotary Club), is is up to the prospective employee to be properly informed of the negative impact of PFT on the aviation business as a whole, and on himself as an individual. That's why we are sharing these opinions here. You can call it "whining" if you like. Be amused.
As long as there are people with the means and the will to pay for training, it will happen. Supply and demand. Simple isn't it? If the supply of pilots went south like in the early 60s PFT would go away for a while. Then it'd come back as the market was again flooded with pilots. The owners of these companies, and the pilots who work for them, are not out to get you personally. They are just trying to make a living.
These are all good reasons to spread the word to avoid PFT like you avoid AIDS. If pilots won't do PFT, it WILL go away. If pilots are all as jelly-spined as you suggest, it will remain with us, albeit in smaller numbers because people have been INFORMED. Knowlege is power.
The views here generally do not reflect the attitude of the majority of PROFESSIONAL pilots who actually fly for a living thank God. Just a vocal minority of immature, needle-dicked, egotistical whackoffs (Sorta like WO school). Please grow the hell up.
Ma'am, I've known pilots since 1956, when I was four. I have yet to meet, in person, in the ensuing 47 years, a professional aviator who agrees with the position you have advocated here.
I think that your list of attributes (a vocal minority of immature, needle-dicked, egotistical whackoffs) is a more appropriate description of a person who would speak this way on a public message board. Did they teach you to talk this way in warrant officer school? I doubt it.
Certainly you are free to hold to your opinion, however misguided it may be. A number of young aviators are learning here. I think they learned something from you today, too.
Skaz...
THat would mean Learjets....so how do I get on with a company?
You continue to hone your skills, and make personal contacts, i.e.: networking. You pay attention here, watching for openings, and you present yourself to others as a clean, intelligent person with moral values and self discipline. In my case, the training period lasted a handful of days, and I didn't pay a dime for it. From my first flight as a required crewmwmber, I was paid the same rate as any other FO at the company. My first raise will be my upgrade, probably before Christmas. Remember, luck is preparation meeting opportunity.
Do a rating and pay for 100 or 250 hours on a Lear....otherwise I dont make the requirements for most Corporate or EMS operators.
If you find an operator that only wants 100 hours in type, that's good. As discussed above, getting your own type rating is not PFT, in that it is not
company specific. You could take your Lear type to any operator that will hire you at a low wage. If, however, you have to pay someone for the privilege of performing the work of a required crewmember, that sure
is PFT. Remember, if operators can't get pilots to play along, then they will be forced to train them on their dime.
Good luck with your search. Your personal honor is valuable. Protect it.
