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Unfortunately pilots going to Kit's job fairs are getting jobs the airlines job they want. The guys getting the jobs would most likely encourage you to not to attend the job fairs so they will have less competition. Kit is only living out "Adam Smith's" stated in "Wealth of Nations" "Everyone looks out for their own best interest", the same as everyone else on this board.
 
Why worry about NetJets. :rolleyes:Just go to a regional! Hey look on this very message board at the ALL ATPS add. They can get you hired as a FO with less than 500TT!!! Isn't that great!!??!! 500 hour FO's.


It's true. I spoke with a Go Jet F/O today in one of America's finest terminals. 512TT as a newhire.

Of course, Uncle Hulas had to lower the mins a bit in order to find pilot candidates willing to work for an alter ego, then non-Union company to rans States.

After all that hard work in training and on the other side of the "school house" I asked him what he thought now...

He said, "I have a wife and a child, this job pays squat."

Then we talked about Pilot Unity for about an hour over Starbuck's... I bought. He soaked it all up...

New pilots aren't learning about the things that are most important to us and the profession. No one is teaching them about towing the line, helping the other guy and looking out for one another.

Every day we are seeing the all time worst day for an aviation career as a professional. Every day since deregulation has led to this day, and tomorrow, and the next...

This profession will not get better until we pick it up by the horns and kick it in the ass. Right now, most parts resemble a pig and not a bull.

NJA pilots seemed to have found what chords to play on our instrument.

I have never felt more unified and a part of any other pilot group.

ALPA? IBT Airline Division? APA (for sure)?

The common thread is the one that binds.



And I digress... CFI to NJA? I'm not saying it's impossible, but improbable. ExecJet was a different time, place and world flying SII's around like corporate pilots. NJA is a very demanding animal and flying jets is probably 1/4 of the work to be done (if you're doing it right).

This business is built on providing our owners solid flying skills in jets, superior customer service (usually trying to fix problems caused by CMH) and attention to detail and communication (spoken and unspoken).

One of the most important things to bring to the interview table is good judgement. An "old" pilot asked a "young" pilot once how he gained so much good judgement. The old pilot responded, "Experience". The young pilot asked the old pilot how he got so much experience to which the old pilot said, "Bad judgement!!"

Our owners pay for experience and they are getting pretty good experience up in the front. Even Chuck Yeager would have a transition period getting used to fractional operations. It takes a while to get your "routine" down from how to pack your bags adequately for a 7 day trip to when to leave the hotel to insure an ontime departure... even if Mr. Big shows 30 minutes early (if possible considering safety).

My advice... do what you want. You will, however, do better in any interview being able to cite examples of issues that have arisen while flying a jet in a crew environment.

Good luck. Oh yeah... when the company says you have to report to a Domicle and there is no good way to commute, tell them thats stupid. Well... scratch that. Saying that might gain you a notch of experience!!

It would feel good though.
 
Fozzy has hit the nail on the head, the regionals are a stepping stone where you build resume fluff, and then move on down the line.


Too bad the regionals have grown to fly over 1/2 of all block hours flown by their major airline "parent" companies.

That's quite a big stepping stone... that's a stepping mountain.
 
KIT= Cee U Next Time
 
I am really happy to see that my post has been well received. I will not let anyone forget what a T O O L Kit Darby is. We can all cost him money. Just tell the truth about him.
Flylow is dead on. We are not teaching our new peers. We all need to kick it in gear and do some educating. We also need to start poisoning the well.
 
Hey Guitar Guy, I'm not taking your response too personally, but maybe I didn't know who he was or what he did because I DIDN'T ever buy his services. Peace, Bro.
 
Hey Guitar Guy, I'm not taking your response too personally, but maybe I didn't know who he was or what he did because I DIDN'T ever buy his services. Peace, Bro.

Ed - I wasn't pointing my response at you so there wasn't anything to take personally. I just feel it's important for anyone reading this thread to understand exactly who Kit Darby is. Like some of the other respondents, I hope a lot of pilots will have their eyes opened to exactly what sort of snake Kit is.

As for pilotyip's response, there is such an ideal as integrity and I don't see much of it in Kit Darby.
 
What does integrity have to do with getting a job at an airline? Some have said that Kit could be the worst snake oil salesman ever to come down the road, but that has nothing to do with his job fairs. The fairs are a viable option for getting interviews at great airlines looking for pilots. To cut off your nose by not going to his fairs to prove a point may not be in the best interest of one's career. You have to seperate the man from his product, if you have problem with Kit.
 
What does integrity have to do with getting a job at an airline? Some have said that Kit could be the worst snake oil salesman ever to come down the road, but that has nothing to do with his job fairs. The fairs are a viable option for getting interviews at great airlines looking for pilots.

The difference is that job fairs in the real world are mostly paid-for by the prospective employers. Only in this stupid business do the applicants get raped for hundreds of dollars on top of it.

Kit Darby is pure slime. I wouldn't give him a dime.
 
Kit should be ashamed of himself for charging what he does from furloughed pilots. And if you are willing to give him a couple of hundred bucks to stand in a couple of lines, just to hand a resume to a prospective employer and get some "face time", you should be ashamed of yourself too. I know that there have been people that have been able to get jobs from these things but maybe if he is so proud of his product, he should provide a money back guarantee like emerald coast interview consulting does. Aaron (AlbieF15 on FI) does a fantastic job in preparing a candidate for an interview, and if you don't get the job, he gives you your money back! Aaron doesn't teach gouge, instead teaches a candidate to interview more effectively. If you are going to spend the money, go to emerald coast and talk to Aaron...he's a class act.
 
What does integrity have to do with getting a job at an airline? Some have said that Kit could be the worst snake oil salesman ever to come down the road, but that has nothing to do with his job fairs. The fairs are a viable option for getting interviews at great airlines looking for pilots. To cut off your nose by not going to his fairs to prove a point may not be in the best interest of one's career. You have to seperate the man from his product, if you have problem with Kit.


aren't you the same guy who got a bunch of guys fired from USAjet for doing the same things your kid was doing...but he kept his job?!?!
 
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