Fractionals from CFI?

[gunfyter]

Fozzy has hit the nail on the head, the regionals are a stepping stone where you build resume fluff, and then move on down the line.

For now maybe... but in the Future ... I hear a pilot shortage will bring pay up into the 6 figure range.

Shortage is already hitting India where ave pilot pay is $20K per month!

 

[honeycomb]

Am I missing something?

Pilotyip is talking about the regionals being a stepping stone. :erm:

AND

Gunfyter is talking about a rossie future.





Am I the only one who finds this funny or disturbing (I don't know which it is yet....)


If you need a hint: Pilotyip talks about the upcoming pilot shortage all the time. And, the Sig for Gunfyter is about an uncertain future and the end is near.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[brnstrmr]

My god, this could mean only one thing, the hiring boom of 2007 really is here

 

[Guitar Guy]

My god, this could mean only one thing, the hiring boom of 2007 really is here

Don't you listen to Kit Darby? He's been preaching this pilot shortage for years! Just pay him and he'll tell you all you need to know about this situation.

 

[gunfyter]

Maybe we should look for volunteers to take leave of absence to infiltrate MESA and Strong Unionize it?

 

[Fozzy]

Maybe we should look for volunteers to take leave of absence to infiltrate MESA and Strong Unionize it?

Ya and Kit would show up and help MESA with their union problem. Kit Darby is a jackas s. I won't ever forget the crap he pulled 2 years ago. You hear that Kit? I have made it one of my life missions to cost you clients and money. Scumbag.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Okay Foz I have to ask: What crap 2 years ago are you referring to?

 

[Majik]

NJA hired Kit Darby as a consultant during contract negotiations to help them argue against higher wages for fractional pilots.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Oh. I guess he's toast on this forum. Thanks for the info.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Oh. I guess he's toast on this forum. Thanks for the info.

It's unfortunate that more pilots don't know this bit of information about Kit. Kit Darby stands for one thing and one thing only: his own income. It would be great if everyone boycotted his "conferences" and refused to pay for his "services".

As Fozzy said, Kit is a scumbag of the highest order and none of us should ever forget his actions against his fellow professional pilots.

 

[pilotyip]

Unfortunately pilots going to Kit's job fairs are getting jobs the airlines job they want. The guys getting the jobs would most likely encourage you to not to attend the job fairs so they will have less competition. Kit is only living out "Adam Smith's" stated in "Wealth of Nations" "Everyone looks out for their own best interest", the same as everyone else on this board.

 

[gunfyter]

I don't think I would be a consultant to managements trying to keep pilot wages low ... while running a business catering to Pilots who want flying jobs....

It just was not a good call IMO. Adam Smith or No.

 

[FLYLOW22]

CFI to ExecJet I mean NetJets, if you go back a few years it happened, those guys have Easy jobs now.

That's spelled EASy jobs.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Why worry about NetJets. Just go to a regional! Hey look on this very message board at the ALL ATPS add. They can get you hired as a FO with less than 500TT!!! Isn't that great!!??!! 500 hour FO's.

It's true. I spoke with a Go Jet F/O today in one of America's finest terminals. 512TT as a newhire.

Of course, Uncle Hulas had to lower the mins a bit in order to find pilot candidates willing to work for an alter ego, then non-Union company to rans States.

After all that hard work in training and on the other side of the "school house" I asked him what he thought now...

He said, "I have a wife and a child, this job pays squat."

Then we talked about Pilot Unity for about an hour over Starbuck's... I bought. He soaked it all up...

New pilots aren't learning about the things that are most important to us and the profession. No one is teaching them about towing the line, helping the other guy and looking out for one another.

Every day we are seeing the all time worst day for an aviation career as a professional. Every day since deregulation has led to this day, and tomorrow, and the next...

This profession will not get better until we pick it up by the horns and kick it in the ass. Right now, most parts resemble a pig and not a bull.

NJA pilots seemed to have found what chords to play on our instrument.

I have never felt more unified and a part of any other pilot group.

ALPA? IBT Airline Division? APA (for sure)?

The common thread is the one that binds.



And I digress... CFI to NJA? I'm not saying it's impossible, but improbable. ExecJet was a different time, place and world flying SII's around like corporate pilots. NJA is a very demanding animal and flying jets is probably 1/4 of the work to be done (if you're doing it right).

This business is built on providing our owners solid flying skills in jets, superior customer service (usually trying to fix problems caused by CMH) and attention to detail and communication (spoken and unspoken).

One of the most important things to bring to the interview table is good judgement. An "old" pilot asked a "young" pilot once how he gained so much good judgement. The old pilot responded, "Experience". The young pilot asked the old pilot how he got so much experience to which the old pilot said, "Bad judgement!!"

Our owners pay for experience and they are getting pretty good experience up in the front. Even Chuck Yeager would have a transition period getting used to fractional operations. It takes a while to get your "routine" down from how to pack your bags adequately for a 7 day trip to when to leave the hotel to insure an ontime departure... even if Mr. Big shows 30 minutes early (if possible considering safety).

My advice... do what you want. You will, however, do better in any interview being able to cite examples of issues that have arisen while flying a jet in a crew environment.

Good luck. Oh yeah... when the company says you have to report to a Domicle and there is no good way to commute, tell them thats stupid. Well... scratch that. Saying that might gain you a notch of experience!!

It would feel good though.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Fozzy has hit the nail on the head, the regionals are a stepping stone where you build resume fluff, and then move on down the line.

Too bad the regionals have grown to fly over 1/2 of all block hours flown by their major airline "parent" companies.

That's quite a big stepping stone... that's a stepping mountain.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Don't you listen to Kit Darby? He's been preaching this pilot shortage for years! Just pay him and he'll tell you all you need to know about this situation.

Kit = TOOL.

That man would sell his mother for a dollar.

 

[FLYLOW22]

That's spelled T-O-O-L.

 

[Diesel]

KIT= Cee U Next Time

 

[Fozzy]

I am really happy to see that my post has been well received. I will not let anyone forget what a T O O L Kit Darby is. We can all cost him money. Just tell the truth about him.
Flylow is dead on. We are not teaching our new peers. We all need to kick it in gear and do some educating. We also need to start poisoning the well.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Hey Guitar Guy, I'm not taking your response too personally, but maybe I didn't know who he was or what he did because I DIDN'T ever buy his services. Peace, Bro.