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[General Lee]

Medflyer,

You guys not getting any aircraft in the RFP should have been a red flag for you. As long as they think you are too expensive---you will get nothing and like it. We are under the same restraint.

Right now they have bigger fish to fry (us)---but after they get some cuts they will go to the other groups and then eventually hit you guys. They will give every new RJ to other groups that will agree to fly them for less. You guys probably could have had the Dojos from ACA---but you wouldn't budge. Unlike you guys--we are actually willing to sit down and talk about cuts---but one CEO isn't budging either.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[P38JLightning]

you down wid RFP? (yeah, you know me)

Medflyer,

>>You guys not getting any aircraft in the RFP should have been a red flag for you. As long as they think you are too expensive---you will get nothing and like it. We are under the same restraint.

>>You guys probably could have had the Dojos from ACA---but you wouldn't budge


General,

Please don't tell me you actually believe any of these recent RFP jets were EVER going to Comair?

Just as a reminder here's how it all went down:

Delta told us to give 8 million a year in cuts and we will get all EIGHTY TWO "growth jets" and will get ALL FUTURE DCI flying. No we won't put it in writing, but we promise you.

Then we said no to concessions by their deadline. Still they "offered" us ALL 45 (hey what happened to the 82?) now "RFP growth jets". They also told ASA there was basicaly NO WAY they were going to get any unless they exited section 6 right away, because Delta NEEDED to know their costs as an absolute precondition to sending any ASA's way.

ASA told Delta management to pound sand, yet they got "awarded" 25 "growth jets" anyway. Sounds fishy?

Not really because those 25 jets they "got awarded" will still barely (not even) bring them up to Comair's size. THEY WERE GOING TO GET THOSE PLANES ANYWAY!

As for the jets Chautauqua "won", they were agreed upon by October of LAST YEAR and prior. The only RFP jets that were anyone's to actually bid for MAY have been the 7 that SkyWest got. That was the only wildcard in the whole "phantom 82" growth jet lie.

IF Skyway gets the DoJets, it will primarily be because they are currently the only operator of that equipment in the country (besides ACA). And the Company has not put us on notice that it would like to negotiate a 32 seat turbo jet pay rate. Our contract, contrary to some wishful thinking out there, does NOT have a pay rate for anything other than 40/44/50 seat CRJ's and 70 seat CRJ's. That's it. Anything else would be REQUIRED to be negotiated, but the Company hasn't even asked. Because they already know where those jets (or DCI airframe lift components, if they're not DoJo afterall) are going.

Sure they want pay cuts from all of us. But don't believe for one minute that any of this RFP crap is legit. Maybe years down the road, but for '03, '04, '05 and probably '06 Delta is putting jets where they knew all along they were going to go.

Except for the phantom 7. Maybe those really were up for grabs. Hardly worth opening up one's PWA to "bid on" though, is it?

 

[XRMEFLYER]

Unlike some here I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. The 190s are not in fact called regional jets by anyone and JBLU did not order any 170s.

FDJ2,
We will just have to agree to disagree on who is paying for whom.

Generally,
Your platitudes and kind words about your furloughed buddies do not make you a team player. If this business is the sum total of your experience as a member of a team and what that REALLY is, then you are way out of your depth and should keep your comments about military men to yourself because like so many topics that you feel compelled to bump your gums about, you don't know the first thing about it.

 

[General Lee]

P38,

These are the same people we are dealing with----with the comakazi (sp?) attitude---all or nothing---pay cuts from us. We could offer them help RIGHT NOW, when they need it the most, but NO--they want it all. Kinda scary! Banzi!!!!!!!


Xream-me,

How do you know? You know nothing about me---only what I allow you to see. I do a lot for our current furloughs, sponsoring some, golfing with others (on me), and contributing to their Cobra and furlough funds. What else can I do for my TEAM? Tell Me? I also contributed (along with everyone else at ALPA) to your strike fund. I am a team player, and not because I have to be....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[XRMEFLYER]

golfing with others (on me)

That was funny, I needed a good laugh tonight. Thanks!
That pretty much sums up my position that you really don't know the first thing about what a team is and to hear you carry on about it just makes those of us who do want to puke.

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ2,
We will just have to agree to disagree on who is paying for whom.

That's cool, nothing wrong with that. Fly safe.

 

[On Your Six]

Xreamflyer,

You are a class act - I am sure you are a pleasure to fly with. In case you haven't noticed over the last couple years, General Lee has been a major advocate of the Delta furloughees - nobody else talks about them on this forum... He seems like a major team player to me. I just wish he could support us at my airline.

 

[XRMEFLYER]

Six,
Thank you for the kind words. I am sure you are real hoot yourself. And yes I have noticed what an advocate the private is for his boys. All talk!

 

[General Lee]

Xream-me,

What? I try to go out and help some furloughs and get their minds off of their plight for a few hours. Whatever dude---you have lost all credibility here. I am glad you had a good laugh Sarge.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[XRMEFLYER]

What? I try to go out and help some furloughs and get their minds off of their plight for a few hours. Whatever dude

Waa Waa Waa! Put some vagisil on it Mary!

you have lost all credibility here

With whom, you? I can live with that.

Sarge.

That is Sergeant to you oxygen thief! Now beat your face!