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For those of you who are thinking of voting for Kerry...........

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Jeff Helgeson said:
I don't care who you vote for or why, I just hate flawed reasoning......

If we follow your faulty reasoning, you do not support your union (if you are an ALPA member) since ALPA has endorsed Kerry. I guess by your post you must be a union-buster or a SCAB?! But that would be using the logic you employed or the lack there of.

Use your vote misely, vote your conscience, just don't be idiot in a public forum.
Just because one is a member of ALPA, and ALPA endorses Kerry, doesn't mean that the same individual must vote in the same as his/her union. Hence the word INDIVIDUAL. Just because one votes opposite of the union's endorsement, doesn't make that individual a scab. Get it right.

LTG
 
Tim47SIP said:
100% of the pilots cant stand Kerry or the Dem party.
You must fly with a strange group. Around 20% of those I've flown with vote Democratic or are Republicans who won't vote for Dubya.
 
TWA Dood

You must fly with a strange group. Around 20% of those I've flown with vote Democratic or are Republicans who won't vote for Dubya.

20% seems low as well. I would have thought that the number would have been much greater than 20% considering ALPA's stance on the subject. And you are right, I do fly with a strange group, but they are a great bunch of professionals. I am sure the guys and gals you fly with are the same. Good luck to you.;)
 
T-Gates,


you are my hero!!!!

nice pic of the Shorty blasting the sounds barrier!!!!

you are right, "anyone can fly a round airplane"!!!!

guam
 
AlGore and Joe Leiberman chartered a Spirit DC9 last election. I believe that they also charted a 75 from elsewhere. Joe Lieberman made a good impression and gained some votes from his decency and manners.

You'd think that Kerry would have the good sense to avoid non-ALPA carriers for his charter.

But then again, he's just another "Listen to what I say, don't watch what I do" liberal. I'm danged tired of hearing limo-libs tell me that my SUV is ruining the environment but that they need their SUV. Their actions don't match their words and I can't stand em.

I may vote Libertarian(regardless of my avatar, that's a slap at Woerth), but I most certainly won't be voting for the Two Johns.

enigma
 
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I think the problem is that pilots fancy themselves as members of the upper-class, but won't admit that we're blue-collar workers who owe the advances we've made to organized labor. I see pilots that blindly cheer the tax cuts while 80% of the benefit goes to people in tax brackets that don't include pilots (Except you Delta guys :) ) I'm all for smaller government, but Bush hasn't delivered. Meanwhile he's running up half a trillion dollars a year in new debt. I'd vote for a well trained monkey over Bush, but absent that choice I've got to go with Kerry.
 
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That is the point I was making!

Long Time Gone said:
Just because one is a member of ALPA, and ALPA endorses Kerry, doesn't mean that the same individual must vote in the same as his/her union. Hence the word INDIVIDUAL. Just because one votes opposite of the union's endorsement, doesn't make that individual a scab. Get it right.

LTG
I have it right. I was using that as an example of the type of logic the original poster used to come to his conclussion. They are both flawed lines of reasoning.

For the record, both parties have used non-union carriers in the past on the campaign trail.

I thought it ironic the original poster would use the union status of an airline to chose a candidate or make a point when the union (ALPA) endorses the opposite candidate!

Personally, I think they all suck, but I will cast my vote because it is my civil duty.......so let's just keep it civil!
 
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Someone mentioned they didn't think ATA would drop a 757 for John Kerry. Well of course not GOD D@MN IT! Why would they do anything for that scumbag. The next thing you know if they flew for Kerry, they'd be buying Airbus!
 
Watched the debates, and it just confirmed my opinion of politicians : they evade the real questions, and prefer to bash the opponent. Pathetic.

I am not a supporter of either party , and would rather vote for someone who stands for his ideas than those of some good ol' boys in blue or red ties. Somebody like John McCain for example.

Now, another thing that disgusts me is the amount of money spent by both candidates campaigning. When you look at the budget, the increase in healthcare costs, the loss of jobs in the last three years, the pay cuts in the police force and the military... many places to inject some needed money instead of spending it on making insulting commercials.

-- Blasted off, got inverted, the instructor said please I just had breakfast, went for the ILS, landed it CAT III, smiled to the cute young F/A, sleepless nights in Hong-Kong and Rio...and still trying to pay my bills --
 
As much as I loathe Kerry, I will not jump on this to criticize him, here's my reasoning:

I'll bet any of you hard core ALPA drum-beaters would buy a ticket on a non-union carrier if it was $150 cheaper and you had to get your family of four somewhere.
 
YOu wusses... you drank the koolaid.


You vote for Bush even though what has happened to the airlines over the last four years.

You vote for Bush even though he lied about his drunk driving arrest.

You vote for Bush even though he couldnt come up with a comprehensible denial that he had used cocaine over the last fifteen years.

You vote for Bush even though members of his cabinet call unions terrorist organizations.

You vote for Bush because he said that he is "Gods Choice to be President"

You vote for Bush because he screwed the people at United on the government loans.

You vote for Bush because he leads us into a war that we didnt have to fight.

My crew and I had the displeasure of watching one of his victims loaded...casket, flag and Air Force escort... onto a Delta plane today. That was someones child, brother, or husband.

He couldnt even remember last night that he had said that he didnt care about Osama bin laden anymore.
Time to stop drinking the koolaid.
Vote with your heart buddy, not your pocketbook or your M60 machine gun.
 
Well Said

It's time for the punk to take a trip to Crawford and STAY THERE!!
 
All of this complaining about money being spent over seas. Being brought into a war that is not our own...busting unions...young men dying...blood spilt for other reasons...I have to sell my second house or fire my pool guy because I don't make 325 hr. anymore...! Well, I think it is about time ya'll WAKE UP and see what is going on!!! I have a lot of friends over in IRAQ and they are proud to be over there fighting. The really funny thing is that all of the good things that have happened over there never reach us here, Why you say... Because most of the news agencies are a bunch of "Kerry Lovers!!"
When I went into the Military, I am pretty sure that I "VOLUNTEERED!!!" I am positive that I did it of my own FREE WILL!!! I was proud to serve in the armed forces and would do it again if called upon to do so...But don't sit there and judge The President for doing his job!! That would be standing tall and protecting our FREEDOM!! We all better understand one thing right now!! If Kerry gets into office, the least of your worries will be pay cuts! If someone parks a NUKE here in the U. S. "Heaven Forbid," You will all being screaming for something to be done, and yet....Kerry will still be trying to figure out if he is for or against Terrorism...Look at his track record...He Is NEVER THERE when it counts. I believe we had a Pres. like that before..."Slick Willey!" Yeah, that would be GREAT!!! NOT!!!
 
TriJet said:
It's time for the punk to take a trip to Crawford and STAY THERE!!
Wow, I guess Mrs. Smith's third grade class is really starting to pay off for you. I mean how else could you come up with a well thought out post like that? Thanks for contributing your intellect to this post.:confused:
 
embraerjetpilot said:
YOu wusses... you drank the koolaid.


You vote for Bush even though what has happened to the airlines over the last four years.

You vote for Bush even though he lied about his drunk driving arrest.

You vote for Bush even though he couldnt come up with a comprehensible denial that he had used cocaine over the last fifteen years.

You vote for Bush even though members of his cabinet call unions terrorist organizations.

You vote for Bush because he said that he is "Gods Choice to be President"

You vote for Bush because he screwed the people at United on the government loans.

You vote for Bush because he leads us into a war that we didnt have to fight.

My crew and I had the displeasure of watching one of his victims loaded...casket, flag and Air Force escort... onto a Delta plane today. That was someones child, brother, or husband.

He couldnt even remember last night that he had said that he didnt care about Osama bin laden anymore.
Time to stop drinking the koolaid.
Vote with your heart buddy, not your pocketbook or your M60 machine gun.
.......and I voted for Bill Clinton because of similar reasons plus he put women in their place. So there.
 

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