For Those About to Vote/Not Vote ALPA At SkyWest...

[10nCLR]

Oh, no! Why Sedona16? Why? Not this ALPO SkyWest onion thing again. This sucks.
Moderator, please block this thread, please. I'm begging you!!!!

 

[Skywest Pylot]

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The erosion at SkyWest will continue until they have a legally enforceable contract. ALPA, Teamsters or In house would all do the trick but getting a "contract" is a MUST.

 

[Metro752]

It will never happen. All the senior lifers there do their best to brainwash the youngins.

You guys are a lost cause.

 

[SSDD]

Metro,

Both ALPA and you keep making the same mistake. It is not the senior group who keeps voting it down. The two biggest anti ALPA groups are the FNG's(that's a relative term since we haven't hired for a while). And guys who have come from really crappy ALPA carriers who have it better at Skywest, and they don't have to pay dues.

 

[120% Torque]

Oh, no! Why Sedona16? Why? Not this ALPO SkyWest onion thing again. This sucks.
Moderator, please block this thread, please. I'm begging you!!!!

Look, we know you as a skywest dispatcher are drinking Koolaid directly from management mamories in the office above you but give it a rest. You probably didn't even bother to read the opening post on this thread and are responding just the way Chip, Ford and Harrison and the rest of the brotherhood in St G taught you to. There is a dispatcher section....Go there....this thread was created to discuss pilot issues.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Look, we know you as a skywest dispatcher are drinking Koolaid directly from management mamories in the office above you but give it a rest. You probably didn't even bother to read the opening post on this thread and are responding just the way Chip, Ford and Harrison and the rest of the brotherhood in St G taught you to. There is a dispatcher section....Go there....this thread was created to discuss pilot issues.

Oh, the hilarity ensues. You DO realize that 10nCLR's online persona is designed to get your dander up and not a representation of the actual person's views, right? Or, are you that "interwebs unsaavy"?

 

[JoeMerchant]

The erosion at SkyWest will continue until they have a legally enforceable contract. ALPA, Teamsters or In house would all do the trick but getting a "contract" is a MUST.

The worst "erosion" has come at carriers WITH a legally enforceable contract...

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe,

We seem to be agreeing more often than not. Amazing.

That's about the only thing ALPA has accomplished.....It's driven pilot groups apart while bring us closer together on our opinions....

 

[ILOVEBEER]

SAPA is worthless.

 

[PCL_128]

Metro,

Both ALPA and you keep making the same mistake. It is not the senior group who keeps voting it down. The two biggest anti ALPA groups are the FNG's(that's a relative term since we haven't hired for a while). And guys who have come from really crappy ALPA carriers who have it better at Skywest, and they don't have to pay dues.

Having worked the last failed ALPA drive, I have to agree with you. We had much more support from the senior group than the junior guys. Wasn't even close.

 

[WayBack]

Having worked the last failed ALPA drive, I have to agree with you. We had much more support from the senior group than the junior guys. Wasn't even close.

Maybe if the junior guys got a respectable, livable wage, they would vote for ALPA. But instead you guys negotiate crap pay scales and then take 2% on top of that. So the guys who are struggling to make money aren't willing to throw away more money at some Union that doesn't do anything....and especially doesn't help out the junior pilots.
In ALPO's history, they have always looked out for themselves and the senior pilot group.

 

[Brazilgun]

Maybe if the junior guys got a respectable, livable wage, they would vote for ALPA. But instead you guys negotiate crap pay scales and then take 2% on top of that. So the guys who are struggling to make money aren't willing to throw away more money at some Union that doesn't do anything....and especially doesn't help out the junior pilots.
In ALPO's history, they have always looked out for themselves and the senior pilot group.[/QUOTE
.......+1

 

[DB Cooper]

Do you guys still have a IAH base?

 

[10nCLR]

Oh, the hilarity ensues. You DO realize that 10nCLR's online persona is designed to get your dander up and not a representation of the actual person's views, right? Or, are you that "interwebs unsaavy"?

Bingo!!!!, Walter you are correct!!!!
120% Torque- please look at avatar, it's all in good fun to get you stirred up. Come on! Where have you been??

Oh, Yeaah!! Believe what you want to believe 120% Torque. The Regional forum is more amusing and comical, but the Majors is pretty close with Gen Lee's posts, hahaha.

 

[120% Torque]

Quotes from Sapa Leadership circa 2003 - 2004:

"Yes. The policy manual/contract should continue to evolve and improve. We should get a reasonable pay increase at the end of this year, which accounts for the latitude that we provided to the company by voting to accept the current package. We should improve SP325."

"I bet we get a healthy pay raise at the end of 2004. I bet we split the 50/70 rates then, too"

"Every quarter that we show a profit, from now until we reach a new pay agreement later this year, works in our favor. Every executive W2 which is higher in 2003 than it was in 2002 works in our favor, regarding TA2005."

"Also, I think that we need to maximize our current structure before we trash it. The tighter we make the manual now, the easier it will be to swallow as a de facto contract down the road. The longer the pay agreement that we have in place when we organize, the more likely we will not go a year, two, or more without an agreement or pay increase."

"Also, I think that we need to maximize our current structure before we trash it. The tighter we make the manual now, the easier it will be to swallow as a de facto contract down the road. The longer the pay agreement that we have in place when we organize, the more likely we will not go a year, two, or more without an agreement or pay increase."