For Those About to Vote/Not Vote ALPA At SkyWest...

[120% Torque]

Two of them??- that shows how alpa helps airlines success. Either that or youre one of "those guys" who takes everybodys bid avoid layer... alpa will not and cannot improve our QOL. our QOL is already better than most alpa regionals. ok now prove me wrong with your alpa supplied homework... ha ha ha ha

How many ALPA carriers have you flown for? How long have you been at Skywest?

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Then why in the hell did you come to SkyWest from your other wonderful "Alpa" carriers?

It was like this when you got here, why go postal now? Unless you like to hear yourself rant.

But really, based on you first 6 page post (get a life), you need therapy.....

Maybe he is actually concerned enough to want to try and educate people, so they will get their heads out of the sand and see the truth!

 

[120% Torque]

Then why in the hell did you come to SkyWest from your other wonderful "Alpa" carriers?

It was like this when you got here, why go postal now? Unless you like to hear yourself rant.

But really, based on you first 6 page post (get a life), you need therapy.....

If you want to have an intelligent debate then why dont you write a similar document refuting the point that I am making...that SAPA sucks worst than ALPA. The job we do and conditions/pay we work under are inseperably connected to quality of life when accounting for income, days off, ability to get days, working conditions, etc. Doing a little research and making an effort to help myself and those around me is a small price to pay for what is at stake. It is people like you that dont bother researching beyond your own meager experience who are the problem. Thats right, go bury your head in the sand only to come up to spew your anti-alpa mantra until you realise Jerry and Co wasnt the kind fatherly figure you thought he was when he introduced you to your new hire class 8 months ago.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Guaranteed he did not read one tenth of what I wrote. These guys come into skywest from some two bit carrier who had ALPA thinking Skywest/SAPA is the answer and it takes several years to find out they are wrong. I've seen it repeated so many times its like that movie "Ground Hog Dog", only things get worse toward the end of the movie instead of better. I've watched even the biggest Anti-ALPA guys who do their little tap dance like these guys are doing...the know it alls, lets call them do a 180 about year 4 or 5. Its funny and ridiculous at the same time. Whats that saying about those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it?! These are more of the sheep that will will be hearded into that group.

I have said repeatedly ALPA IS NOT PERFECT and ALPA will not win you the lottery but in contrast to what is happening at skywest it most assuredly is better than nothing/Sapa!

Although I've never thought ALPA was the greatest thing since sliced bread, it seems lately SAPA is unwilling or unable to accomplish anything other than management directives/orders...leaving us with ALPA as a lesser evil !

 

[CFIT]

Maybe he is actually concerned enough to want to try and educate people, so they will get their heads out of the sand and see the truth!

All good, take all these uneducated, miserable, people to another carrier with one of those incredible contracts from ALPA, like ASA, and it will be peace on earth.

The only alternative is to pull their head out take in some O2 and realize today's airline environment.

 

[CFIT]

If you want to have an intelligent debate then why dont you write a similar document refuting the point that I am making...that SAPA sucks worst than ALPA. The job we do and conditions/pay we work under are inseperably connected to quality of life when accounting for income, days off, ability to get days, working conditions, etc. Doing a little research and making an effort to help myself and those around me is a small price to pay for what is at stake. It is people like you that dont bother researching beyond your own meager experience who are the problem. Thats right, go bury your head in the sand only to come up to spew your anti-alpa mantra until you realise Jerry and Co wasnt the kind fatherly figure you thought he was when he introduced you to your new hire class 8 months ago.

I've been here almost 17 years.

Trust me, I know this industry.

 

[120% Torque]

All good, take all these uneducated, miserable, people to another carrier with one of those incredible contracts from ALPA, like ASA, and it will be peace on earth.

The only alternative is to pull their head out take in some O2 and realize today's airline environment.

The truth and reality, two things you seem to steer clear of are that Skywest hurt ASA's negotiations. If the pilots of Skywest, the most profitable regional in the industry had raised the bar and not taken the very highly slanted advice of Sapa (ie 99 seats for 50 seat pay, and now no hard raise...only a deceptive overide pay program that doesnt seem to be applicable in so many cases its making heads spin, work rule losses, etc) the pilots of ASA would probably have had a contract. Skywest is hurting everone including themselves when they let their future get tossed to the dogs every time sapa meets with their boss. Ill give you a hint, the working pilot at skywest is not sapa's boss.

 

[120% Torque]

I've been here almost 17 years.

Trust me, I know this industry.

You have been at skywest for 17 years? There is only one reasonable explanation, you are a part of Sapa? I want a a truthful answer?

 

[inthegoo]

Voice In The Union Of Your Choice!

SAPA clearly isn't the solution...... and neither is ALPA......

When you call the number, choose the option to voice in another union, maybe teamsters? Horizon guys/gals seem to be quite happy.

-Goo

 

[CFIT]

You have been at skywest for 17 years? There is only one reasonable explanation, you are a part of Sapa? I want a a truthful answer?

Yes, and so are you. You can place your pissed off energy at making it work or take it to another carrier, but your type of arogant attitude is getting old for those of us that have been here when the rules were very different.

 

[jea]

How many ALPA carriers have you flown for? How long have you been at Skywest?

1. and ive been here for 2 years... you can now say how i dont know the industry ill change my mind... ive been in the business long enough... i knew the pay and work rules when i took the job.. SkyWest is and will always be better than most alpa regionals. you cannot argue that.. alpa is a poweless dying artifact of the way things used to be.


continue hating... oh and who do i thank for the lunches?

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

Torquey,
If ALPA loses, please do us all a favor and quit, or go to Mesa. You will never be happy at SkyWest.

And if ALPA wins will you kindly reciprocate?

(Hopefully looking forward to moving up a number.)

 

[CFIT]

And if ALPA wins will you kindly reciprocate?

(Hopefully looking forward to moving up a number.)

Probably, if the union gets in here it will be the worst place to be anyway.

It will be funny watching all those with ALPA stickers on their flight case peeling them off because management sees them as a target.

 

[120% Torque]

Yes, and so are you. You can place your pissed off energy at making it work or take it to another carrier, but your type of arogant attitude is getting old for those of us that have been here when the rules were very different.

Do you fly the CRJ or EMB? How long have you been a Check Airman?

 

[CFIT]

Do you fly the CRJ or EMB? How long have you been a Check Airman?

Metro, Emb, CRJ, no LCA.

How long have you been here?
Was SAPA in place when you applied?
Ever hard flown 9.5 hours + and 12 legs in a Metro for 7.1 hours of pay?

Maybe you don't know all that has occured?