FO/Flex how would you vote to integrate??

[V1 Rotate]

Do tell, what did you guys get?

Also what did KR talk about on yabbadabbado? Since we don't have access

At this point, why do you want access to something that you mock? I know it's like beating a dead horse but you made the reference. And since we've debated our Pilot Agreement vs your CBA to death on here, it may be worth mentioning that any changes to our basing policy, which is set to include up to 30 new bases, will be voted on by the pilots before any changes are made. I guess there is some validity to it after all.

 

[slowtation capt]

Really, yammer is for posting birthdays and ataboys and not much else.

Although after the new pay increase mommas gonna get a new pair of shoes!!!

So what increase did you guys get, are you afraid to tell us.

 

[DirtyBeech]

So what increase did you guys get, are you afraid to tell us.

Extra years added to FO and Challenger captain payscales and daily OT will now be paid at 1.25 or 1.5 times your daily rate dependent on whether the day was voluntary or forced. It used to be a set rate that no longer offered much in in incentive above the normal daily rate. It's somewhat better now. The voluntary OT is much more attractive, but most guys don't want to work more than the 16 days per bid period that is already forced on them.

 

[el raton]

So what increase did you guys get, are you afraid to tell us.

Me?? Nothing...

 

[slowtation capt]

Extra years added to FO and Challenger captain payscales and daily OT will now be paid at 1.25 or 1.5 times your daily rate dependent on whether the day was voluntary or forced. It used to be a set rate that no longer offered much in in incentive above the normal daily rate. It's somewhat better now. The voluntary OT is much more attractive, but most guys don't want to work more than the 16 days per bid period that is already forced on them.

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Was anyone maxed on the payscale and stuck at that pay with no annual raise?

Why nothing added for the Lears?

 

[el raton]

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Was anyone maxed on the payscale and stuck at that pay with no annual raise?

Why nothing added for the Lears?

Don't you know by now that no one gets a raise when Netjets is in contract negotiations? Let's face it, until we're as big as them, they set the tone for our industry.

 

[slowtation capt]

At this point, why do you want access to something that you mock? I know it's like beating a dead horse but you made the reference.

If we had access to something that you didn't and our owner was telling us things, but you couldn't be involved in that conversation, the same conversation that might and probably does affect all of our futures, you wouldn't want to be part of that?

 

[V1 Rotate]

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Was anyone maxed on the payscale and stuck at that pay with no annual raise?

Why nothing added for the Lears?

Every year we have FO's that top out so they keep adding an additional year. The Challenger CA's that have topped out get a merit raise but I have no idea how much. However, when the Lear CA's top out there is no such merit raise for some bizarre reason?!? Something to do with the way it worked 10-15 yes ago or something.

If we had access to something that you didn't and our owner was telling us things, but you couldn't be involved in that conversation, the same conversation that might and probably does affect all of our futures, you wouldn't want to be part of that?

I probably would but it seems that everyone on here seems to make a big joke of Yammer when in fact there is a lot of good information that we get from it. Yes, there are a bunch of silly things that the office folk post but what do you expect from people who are stuck in that environment every single day?

 

[DirtyBeech]

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Unfortunately the forced OT and holiday pay is the lower of the two payouts. Trying to incentivize working more I'm sure, but it would be nice to be equally compensated for missing virtually every holiday on the calendar with your family year after year. But they didn't ask me.

 

[Propilot77]

Lear Captain Pay doesn't increase because the aircraft only generates so much revenue for the company. The challengers generate much more revenue hence the increase of a merit raise. So as long as you stay in the Lear you will never see an increase (once you top out) until you move to a challenger. That's straight from JW AND DW.