FO/Flex how would you vote to integrate??

[slowtation capt]

Did you ever ask one of your managers like I suggested?

Seriously, I hope communication will improve under DW.

Yes, multiple peope, got the "You guys know more than us" quote

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Yes, multiple peope, got the "You guys know more than us" quote

That sucks.

I really do hope that your communication will improve under the new leadership.

You shouldn't have to find things like this out on FI. This is not meant to be ugly, I am being 100% serious.

Did you guys get the audio recording of the quarterly update from KR today?

Not sure if they were identical,but would love t hear what you guys got.

 

[Pervis]

The managers in the office are more clueless than we are! They are always asking us what we've heard!

No, they are fishing to see what rumors are sticking to the wall.

 

[slowtation capt]

That sucks.

I really do hope that your communication will improve under the new leadership.

You shouldn't have to find things like this out on FI. This is not meant to be ugly, I am being 100% serious.

Did you guys get the audio recording of the quarterly update from KR today?

Not sure if they were identical,but would love t hear what you guys got.

I was gonna try to attach the audio file, but it seems I can not.

 

[FR8DOG777]

You've got to be the most idiotic person I've ever debated. Who could possibly ever take you serious? Especially after what you said you'd like to do to DW on a couch in Dallas? Everyone remember that comment? I have no connections to Canada and would be just as happy if I never went to Montreal again and I assure you that I've never kissed anyone's posterior to get where I'm at. And who would I be sucking up to on here anyway??? I ragged on your routinely incoherent posts because it just illustrated your ignorance and you never seem to let me down with each post. I actually look forward to meeting you guys one day and debating face to face as I've done three times in the past couple of weeks. One being one of your union reps and another little short feller who can't wait to get his hands on a CL300. Both had the talking points down but the little guy wasn't prepared for any further debate.

You seriously need some help V1. So you still think you got the tiger by the tail and in control of your future as a fractional pilot? Guess what I married and am monogamous for life. You took it bait, hook, line, and sinker defending your princess though. Had to laugh about that one. Coincidentally if you fly Ricci why don't you ask him why his beloved wife is no longer involved in the business? My read on you, a 35 year old know it all flying a 350. Nothing can get in your way of achieving or sustaining aviator greatness lol. I just hope the powers that be negotiate at least a 2 year fence and run your ass ragged with your highly dependable equipment. Because Ricci never sells contracts he can't support. Your a fool, along with the other dozen fools constantly logged on here. Keep it up and retire me early persuading me to go make some real change flying heavies overseas while you destroy what 10-15k professional pilots have been establishing here. I hope you didn't break ground on your new pool at your Mcmansion in Addison.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

FR8,
Wasn't it KR's wife that was getting our hotel points?

 

[V1 Rotate]

You seriously need some help V1. So you still think you got the tiger by the tail and in control of your future as a fractional pilot? Guess what I married and am monogamous for life. You took it bait, hook, line, and sinker defending your princess though. Had to laugh about that one. Coincidentally if you fly Ricci why don't you ask him why his beloved wife is no longer involved in the business? My read on you, a 35 year old know it all flying a 350. Nothing can get in your way of achieving or sustaining aviator greatness lol. I just hope the powers that be negotiate at least a 2 year fence and run your ass ragged with your highly dependable equipment. Because Ricci never sells contracts he can't support. Your a fool, along with the other dozen fools constantly logged on here. Keep it up and retire me early persuading me to go make some real change flying heavies overseas while you destroy what 10-15k professional pilots have been establishing here. I hope you didn't break ground on your new pool at your Mcmansion in Addison.

I wish you were correct on the age guess and you're way off on the equipment. I'm sure you're married and have a great relationship but that doesn't mean that I took any bait that you dangled out there. The fact is that you got all wrapped up in your hatred for me and TWA that you threw a ridiculous comment out there and now you're trying to walk it back.

If you promise to go overseas and never post here again I'll gladly buy your one way ticket to some sandbox hellhole. Just tell me when. And also, I don't live in Dallas or Addison, not even Texas, but nice try again. My home is FAR from a mansion and we have a very modest above ground pool. You're a pitiful soul who thinks I want to destroy what you've built. But I'm curious...what have you contributed so mightily to our industry? And Btw, have you gotten wind to some of the increases to our compensation yesterday? Not much, but what did you get???

Anyway, good luck to you and your ilk and may we never speak to one another again.

 

[slowtation capt]

And Btw, have you gotten wind to some of the increases to our compensation yesterday? Not much, but what did you get???

Do tell, what did you guys get?

Also what did KR talk about on yabbadabbado? Since we don't have access

 

[el raton]

Do tell, what did you guys get?

Also what did KR talk about on yabbadabbado? Since we don't have access

Really, yammer is for posting birthdays and ataboys and not much else.

Although after the new pay increase mommas gonna get a new pair of shoes!!!

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Do tell, what did you guys get?

Also what did KR talk about on yabbadabbado? Since we don't have access

Biggest things I got from the last two days:

No plan to merge the pilot groups (everyone should be happy)

Plans to keep two separate offices

BE400 gone this year from FO - still adding Phenom 300s

Potential for increase in number of Globals - product has been well received by owners

FJ adding up to 6 Cl-300/350 this year - hiring to start late summer to fall

Will still offer preferential interviews to furloughed FO pilots, but now will do the same for active FO pilots that want to come to FJ

 

[V1 Rotate]

Do tell, what did you guys get?

Also what did KR talk about on yabbadabbado? Since we don't have access

At this point, why do you want access to something that you mock? I know it's like beating a dead horse but you made the reference. And since we've debated our Pilot Agreement vs your CBA to death on here, it may be worth mentioning that any changes to our basing policy, which is set to include up to 30 new bases, will be voted on by the pilots before any changes are made. I guess there is some validity to it after all.

 

[slowtation capt]

Really, yammer is for posting birthdays and ataboys and not much else.

Although after the new pay increase mommas gonna get a new pair of shoes!!!

So what increase did you guys get, are you afraid to tell us.

 

[DirtyBeech]

So what increase did you guys get, are you afraid to tell us.

Extra years added to FO and Challenger captain payscales and daily OT will now be paid at 1.25 or 1.5 times your daily rate dependent on whether the day was voluntary or forced. It used to be a set rate that no longer offered much in in incentive above the normal daily rate. It's somewhat better now. The voluntary OT is much more attractive, but most guys don't want to work more than the 16 days per bid period that is already forced on them.

 

[el raton]

So what increase did you guys get, are you afraid to tell us.

Me?? Nothing...

 

[slowtation capt]

Extra years added to FO and Challenger captain payscales and daily OT will now be paid at 1.25 or 1.5 times your daily rate dependent on whether the day was voluntary or forced. It used to be a set rate that no longer offered much in in incentive above the normal daily rate. It's somewhat better now. The voluntary OT is much more attractive, but most guys don't want to work more than the 16 days per bid period that is already forced on them.

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Was anyone maxed on the payscale and stuck at that pay with no annual raise?

Why nothing added for the Lears?

 

[el raton]

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Was anyone maxed on the payscale and stuck at that pay with no annual raise?

Why nothing added for the Lears?

Don't you know by now that no one gets a raise when Netjets is in contract negotiations? Let's face it, until we're as big as them, they set the tone for our industry.

 

[slowtation capt]

At this point, why do you want access to something that you mock? I know it's like beating a dead horse but you made the reference.

If we had access to something that you didn't and our owner was telling us things, but you couldn't be involved in that conversation, the same conversation that might and probably does affect all of our futures, you wouldn't want to be part of that?

 

[V1 Rotate]

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Was anyone maxed on the payscale and stuck at that pay with no annual raise?

Why nothing added for the Lears?

Every year we have FO's that top out so they keep adding an additional year. The Challenger CA's that have topped out get a merit raise but I have no idea how much. However, when the Lear CA's top out there is no such merit raise for some bizarre reason?!? Something to do with the way it worked 10-15 yes ago or something.

If we had access to something that you didn't and our owner was telling us things, but you couldn't be involved in that conversation, the same conversation that might and probably does affect all of our futures, you wouldn't want to be part of that?

I probably would but it seems that everyone on here seems to make a big joke of Yammer when in fact there is a lot of good information that we get from it. Yes, there are a bunch of silly things that the office folk post but what do you expect from people who are stuck in that environment every single day?

 

[DirtyBeech]

That's good, make the forced OT pay for being away from your family.

Unfortunately the forced OT and holiday pay is the lower of the two payouts. Trying to incentivize working more I'm sure, but it would be nice to be equally compensated for missing virtually every holiday on the calendar with your family year after year. But they didn't ask me.

 

[Propilot77]

Lear Captain Pay doesn't increase because the aircraft only generates so much revenue for the company. The challengers generate much more revenue hence the increase of a merit raise. So as long as you stay in the Lear you will never see an increase (once you top out) until you move to a challenger. That's straight from JW AND DW.