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CapnVegetto said:
You're probably exactly the type of jackoff that Putt and myself are talking about. You can't stand to be wrong, and hate it even more when someone proves you wrong. Pilots are generally that type of personality. Hell, I might even like you if I met you in real life. The only difference between me and you is that there is no difference between "CapnVegetto" and "Mike", the guy in real life. What I say on this board is pretty much exactly how I am in the world........4 letter words and everything. I'm good at what I do, and I know it. I don't care if you're a 20,000 hour 747 captain, if you're acting like a f-ing dick smack, I'm going to tell you. If I'm acting like a jacka$$, I expect to be told so. I'm not a politician......I don't kiss a$$ and babies. I'm there to get a job done. I'm a "professional". That word gets tossed around on this board so much by people that have no f-ing clue what that means. Being a professional simply means one thing, doing the best job you can do despite the circumstances. Wearing a spiffy uniform doesn't make you a professional. Flying a big airplane doesn't make you a professional. Making $300K a year doesn't make you a professional. Only ONE THING DOES. Your ATTITUDE. Dumb a$$holes that are domineering, arrogant, and don't listen to their FO's are the furtherest thing from professional. I'm a lot more unprofessional in the respect that if someone pi$$es me off enough (which takes a lot, mind you), that they are going to get a serious tounge lashing with a lot of f-words laced in, and they are going to know EXACTLY what I think about them.

I can come off as an a$$hole here sometimes, but the examples I cite here are extreme cases. I've done it ONCE, in my 8 year flying career. You can whine all you want about it being unprofessional, but sometimes it's just necessary.....plain and simple.


Couldn't have said it better myself. Most of the time we all fly with people we generally get along with. It seems, at my company anyway, most if not all of the assholes have either weeded themselves out of a job or management has done it for them. I have a reputation at work for telling it like it is which in my opinion is good. Hell, I've even been in the face of the guy who started and owns our company. He got pissed, called me a pu$$y" and threatened to fire me because we got into a heated discussion one day. He was wrong about the way he handled a particular sitiuation and I didn't hesitate to tell him. "Hey, you asked" I said. I told him if he wanted a "Yes Man" I'm not the best candidate for that position. He later apologized, admitted he was wrong and we laughed it off. I DID offer the opportunity for him to step outside and prove his pu$$y theory anytime he thought he was up to it. He has't taken me up on it yet. Considering I'm a few inches taller and a few lbs heavier than him, I doubt he will.
Some have said guys like me and CapnVegetto may be a bit harsh or verbally abusive which they think is unprofessional. But keep in mind, the other guy went there first. I feel if you don't say anything and allow the a$$hole to get away or continue this behavior, you're just a bigger fool than he is and only inviting further conflict. Stop it while it's occuring. Trust me you'll be better off in the long run.
 
Ace-of-the-Base said:
CRFLyPutt said:
You say I handle the situation like a "high- school student," and in the next sentence you yourself boast about whipping MY a$$. You're a smart one LOL!!! QUOTE]

Listen, Einstein, maybe you should invest in a dictionary (with words with more than 4 letters) and look up sarcasm and irony. Keeping it simple for you stupid. You might then see that I was not saying that I would ever stoop to physical threats or actions, Now you're a liar. Your exact words were "I could whoop yo ass". Take your own advice, check YOUR dictionary for the words physical and threats. But anyway, I seriously doubt you'd do or even SAY anything if we were eye to eye. Some of us are screen name bad-asses who in reality wouldn't do squat. regardless of my size or abilities. Just hang onto that fantasy son. You say that professionalism is just one thing: attitude. I never said that but then comprehension and recall, I'm seeing, is not one of your strong points. You can't keep up with what you've said. That is a hoot coming from you. You’re a foul mouthed little punk What tipped ya? Only to a$$holes, check the mirror for reference. and I’m really glad you’re not flying big planes. Having been part owner in a small jet and selling it for a profit is nothing compared to you <<snicker>>. Now for the insult: Are you over or under 5’9”? Lets see, in two sentences you've used a size reference, stature and big airplanes. What's wrong son, the wife got a bigger slong on the side while you're out flying the "bigger" airplane? It's tough being short statured and ego sensitive huh? Judging from what I've read this may be a bit much for you, but read and try to comprehend what CapnV said about who you think you are because you fly something bigger. Hope that big airplane of yours has 2 Lavs. You're so full it you need both.
 
Infantile rhetoric

CRFLyPutt said:

'Ya know what, "son", you're right. I've blended you and the other dork on this thread (although, you're probably the same person).

As for threats, again, LOOK IT UP. If one say "I could whop 'yo a$$" they are NOT making a threat. For that to be a threat, one would have to say "I'm GOING to..." or "...if you do X, I'LL kick 'yo a$$".

Look it up, and look up insecure while you're at it. I sincerely doubt you've even thrown a punch in your adult life. Punk.

Ace
 
Ace-of-the-Base said:
CRFLyPutt said:
'Ya know what, "son", you're right. I've blended you and the other dork on this thread (although, you're probably the same person).

As for threats, again, LOOK IT UP. If one say "I could whop 'yo a$$" they are NOT making a threat. For that to be a threat, one would have to say "I'm GOING to..." or "...if you do X, I'LL kick 'yo a$$".

Look it up, and look up insecure while you're at it. I sincerely doubt you've even thrown a punch in your adult life. Punk.

Ace

There's only one dork in this thread, and you're it. You're probably the type of person that would try to be nice to and 'rehabilitate' the guy that was breaking into your house in the middle of the night and stealing your stuff. Why don't you go off somewhere, put on your tie dyed t-shirt, drop some acid, and protest the extinction of some spotted owl on Alaskan oil land.

Have fun flying your GIV. Wow, you're so much more professional than me because you fly a G-whiz right? I'd be impressed except for the fact that I've already turned down a job in a G550. I don't want to be gone 25 days a month in frickin Asia and Europe. Believe it or not, I actually have a life outside of flying. I love my job, but I leave work at work. Only time I'm around planes is when I'm working. Other than that, I'm either hunting, fishing, golfing, drinking beer, or any combination of above events. I bet you can't talk about anything other than how neato mosquito your 'bigger' plane is. Kinda funny actually.

I've seen other people on this forum refer to you as an a$$. Now I know why.
 
Ace-of-the-Base said:
CRFLyPutt said:
'Ya know what, "son", you're right. I've blended you and the other dork on this thread (although, you're probably the same person).
Now he's a dork? darn son, you're not making any friends here are you Ace-of-Disgrace. LOL!!!

As for threats, again, LOOK IT UP. If one say "I could whop 'yo a$$" they are NOT making a threat. For that to be a threat, one would have to say "I'm GOING to..." or "...if you do X, I'LL kick 'yo a$$".
Lets just entertain this bull$$hit little tirade of yours and again show you why you're wrong. Lets imagine we some how out of sheer bad luck end up in the same FBO, at the same time. You stumble down the stairs of your "big" airplane with your co-pilot who's behind and flipping you the "bird" cause like the rest of us he thinks you're an a$$hole. You hang up your cell phone, you've tried to call the wife but for some reason she won't take your call or is out of pocket hint, hint. You walk in, look at me without ever knowing who I was and say, "I could whoop yo a$$!" Now, before you could get the last S out of your mouth you'd get a left eye full of right fist. Sorry if I didn't take the time to distinguish the words could, going to, or kick first.

Look it up, and look up insecure while you're at it. I sincerely doubt you've even thrown a punch in your adult life. Punk. You better look up a good prearranged funeral plan bitch. You're going to need it with that attitude.
 
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CapnVegetto said:
Ace-of-the-Base said:
There's only one dork in this thread, and you're it. You're probably the type of person that would try to be nice to and 'rehabilitate' the guy that was breaking into your house in the middle of the night and stealing your stuff. Why don't you go off somewhere, put on your tie dyed t-shirt, drop some acid, and protest the extinction of some spotted owl on Alaskan oil land.

Have fun flying your GIV. Wow, you're so much more professional than me because you fly a G-whiz right? I'd be impressed except for the fact that I've already turned down a job in a G550. I don't want to be gone 25 days a month in frickin Asia and Europe. Believe it or not, I actually have a life outside of flying. I love my job, but I leave work at work. Only time I'm around planes is when I'm working. Other than that, I'm either hunting, fishing, golfing, drinking beer, or any combination of above events. I bet you can't talk about anything other than how neato mosquito your 'bigger' plane is. Kinda funny actually.

I've seen other people on this forum refer to you as an a$$. Now I know why.

I hear ya!! I fly contract on a GII and was offered a fulltime postion. I turned it down due to the overnights. I have less overnights in the Lears. Believe I had 40 overnights last year compared to the GII which had about 120 total. As for guys like Ace-of-Disgrace...... With my luck I'd get paired with this guy on a long trip. Trust me, one way or another though things would go my way. I'd break him in or break his neck, one of the two.
 
Alright kids, I'm outa' this thread.

I have complained that this forum is full of threads that do nothing to advance aviation or the profesionals who make their living at it. I've lowered my personal bar enough and wasted anyones time who has read these posts. My strong opinions have certainly put a thorn in some on this board (which is good, if everyone liked me I'd be worried), but I think most of them have been on 'real' subjects. This thread has become just plain stupid.

If 'tough guys' want a real piece of me, PM me and I'll tell you exactly who I am and where you can find me.

For the rest of you, carry on and let's have some good, constructive discussions.

Ace
 
Ace-of-the-Base said:
Alright kids, I'm outa' this thread.

I have complained that this forum is full of threads that do nothing to advance aviation or the profesionals who make their living at it. I've lowered my personal bar enough and wasted anyones time who has read these posts. My strong opinions have certainly put a thorn in some on this board (which is good, if everyone liked me I'd be worried), but I think most of them have been on 'real' subjects. This thread has become just plain stupid.

If 'tough guys' want a real piece of me, PM me and I'll tell you exactly who I am and where you can find me.

For the rest of you, carry on and let's have some good, constructive discussions.

Ace


All I heard was 'blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.' I wasn't the one that said I could 'whoop yo a$$'. I simply stated my feelings about domineering captains and you felt it pertinant to call me a dork for advocating good CRM. The only thing here that is 'just plain stupid' is you.
 
Handbags at 50 paces?

I'll make popcorn and print off some tickets real quick if you ladies wanna slap-fight for an audience. I can sell tickets to ANYTHING. :D

Minhberg the Jew
 
Ace-of-the-Base said:
Alright kids, I'm outa' this thread.

I have complained that this forum is full of threads that do nothing to advance aviation or the profesionals who make their living at it. I've lowered my personal bar enough and wasted anyones time who has read these posts. My strong opinions have certainly put a thorn in some on this board (which is good, if everyone liked me I'd be worried), but I think most of them have been on 'real' subjects. This thread has become just plain stupid.

If 'tough guys' want a real piece of me, PM me and I'll tell you exactly who I am and where you can find me.

For the rest of you, carry on and let's have some good, constructive discussions.

Ace

The only wise thing you've said during this entire discussion. Getting out a thread that's a fingerpoint at yourself is probably a good thing. Flying with a$$holes and spot lighting yourself isn't a positive thing. And by the way, where are? I'll look you up the next time I'm there so you can once and for all prove you're not a liar.
 
say again said:
I have to fly with this a$$hole for weeks and weeks and weeks straight. No relief in sight. This guy thinks he's freakin' Joe Pilot. He's afraid of turbulence, clouds, ice, wx, and traffic 2000' above or below. He can't land the plane for crap (of course it's the x-wind or some other "factor" not being his fault.) He cries to the chief pilot if things don't go his way, I'm sick of it. I've talked to the company about him, and EVERYONE agrees with me.

I just need to vent and let out my anger towards this a$$. How do others in my situation deal with idiots like this?? I just assume not talk to this guy anymore (*except for flying duties). It makes for a long trip, but I'll be happy.

BTW-we're both CAPT's. which makes things even worse.

Sounds EXACTLY like a guy (turd) that I fly with, complete freakin' idiot. I feel your pain. How do these morons make it this far??
 
say again said:
I have to fly with this a$$hole .............

I did some contract work last week on a GII for a guy who has a reputation for being an asshole. I didn't know what to expect except for the stories I've heard about this captain being a total asshole. Quite the contrary, the guy was as pleasant as can be and paid me my $500 a day instead of the $300 he normally pays.
 

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