Flopsions Management....Corupt Third World Mentality

[CaveoFalco]

You are right, I don't know about the specific CBA, nor do I need to or want to. (I'm now in a non-union airline, remember?)

But, if it walks like a duck, flies like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

There is no way you are going to convince any of us that have been repeatedly screwed over by unions that an "industry leading contract" is going to work and help the industry. It will hurt more than it will help. Why?

It's the union way.

www.unionfacts.com

To quote myself, you are incapable of any educated and articulate discussion on the issue. The sum total of your academic debate is a trite phrase and posting a F and H link. Nice. I don't care if you are a union pilot or not - that is your choice for which you get to bear the end result. It makes no difference to me.

NJA and IBT1108 work jointly to solve problems and resolve issues. Mr. Santulli is happy to have IBT1108. It has contributed as much to the success of the Company as management has. Watch his video - he will tell you. I know you won't. That would be academic research and education. That does not fit you well.

 

[realityman]

B19, interesting that you finally responded to one of my posts.

However, the fact that you obviously know nothing about our CBA, our cooperative efforts with the company, or any pertinent details whatsoever about anything to do with our program means that anything you have to say on the subjetc has NO CREDIBILITY whatsoever.

As an example, suppose I flew on a certain airline and had a really bad experience. And then later flew on another airline and had another really bad experience. Would I be correct to go around telling people that ALL airlines are pure crap? And if I could point to airlines in the past that were crap, would that still make my statement that ALL airlines are crap true?

Well, that's what you're doing with 1108. You've had some bad experiences with unions. You can point to some bad things unions have done in the past. Ans so feel justified making the statement that ALL unions are bad and harmful. You even state that you don't need to knwo anything about our CBA, just that the very fact that it came about from a union makes it, and us, bad.

Sorry, but that's pretty faulty logic. You've been urging everyone to get educated on unions with that link you have to the anti-union site. Why don't you take a few minutes and get yourself educated on what 1108 has done for the pilots, AND THE COMPANY, before you cut us down just because we're a union.

By the way, just curious since you brought up Eastern Airlines earlier. Suppose the unions had caved quickly and taken all the cuts and concessions management wanted. Do you think they'd have made it and would still be in business? Unless I'm mistaken, that airline was in serious financial straights long before the unions got stubborn. That smacks of poor management and/or a poor business model. Not greedy unions dragging things down.

 

[fischman]

... Would I be correct to go around telling people that ALL airlines are pure crap?

Actually, I think you might be correct.