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I find it amusing that all of these rumors are flying around that Net Jets is supposedly going to buy FLOPS. ....AND YET.... the NetJets guys are seemingly "so concerned" that the Flops pilots unionize. Hmmm.... If THAT rumor were to be possible you'd think that it would be just the opposite.
Consider this... A few years ago when RTA existed as a separate entity (and a union ALMOST a done deal (so they say)...it would have been thought UNFATHOMABLE that "little" Flight Options would be the one taking over.... YET IT HAPPENED.
Then, after the dust had settled and any unionizing back to square one, Big Raytheon is back at the helm, recently taking over more than 90 percent ownership. (Ever hear of them?... HUGE company, unlimited government contracts, etc).
Back at NetJets, the powers that be suddenly decide to "give in to union demands" (after several years), giving much more than they likely intend to pay in all actuality...HOW, you say?
Well, in case you've missed it, fractional ownership has come into light as being not the big profitable deal it was originally thought to be. SO, if not (see article "Fact or Fraction" via google)... Then the allegedly "New" plane fractionals would be the ones headed for the biggest dive as they charge the most...for planes that, in all reality aren't all that much newer (OH YEAH...and what company MAKES a lot of these planes???...RAYTHEON).
Now, knowing this latest downward trend in fractional providers, and having a HUGE interest in its profit and survival...MAYBE Momma Raytheon sees an opportunity... BUY NETJETS (not the other way around)...operate under the premise of Flops plan... (*EXCEPT* bring in management that is not incompetent, and run it efficiently)...and guess what...Uncle Warren walks away fat & happy...and no more profit down the drain (which would be moreso with the union contract)... OR**** Maybe Uncle Warren is in "silent partner cahoots" with Raytheon to share in this venture without the headache of the union. (It HAS been done, as you see).
So now, not only will Raytheon be MAKING the planes, but they can (plan) to run a lower cost plan which will result in higher profits for them...with no middle man between the assmebly line and accounts receivable for the fractional contracts.
Where does that leave the NetJets contract? Why, stapled to the bottom, of course! ...JUST like they'd plan to do with FLOPS...except THIS scenario seems the most likely to me, as NetJets would CERTAINLY not approve such a contract, intending to bring on an additional pilot force as large as Flops to add to the burden.
Not likely? Neither was Flops "taking over" RTA...Welcome to big corporate and the art of the union bust. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER...
Just think about THIS: WHY do NetJets pilots have SUCH a big interest in spending their free time "helping" FLOPS pilots? WHY is the FLOPS IBT board completely under the NetJets IBT umbrella (so they know what's going on at every second)....
Tell me. WHY the sudden caring about FLOPS pilots? Hmmmm...
addendum: The preceding speculation, while highly likely, is...like other garbage posted, just speculation...yet a distinct possibility...think for YOURSELF, weigh BOTH possibilties...yet KNOW that there are games being played on BOTH sides, so decide READING ALL possibilities
(...OH, I know...so and so TALKED to so and so big cheese and so and so rumor is a "done deal"...aren't they ALL)
Consider this... A few years ago when RTA existed as a separate entity (and a union ALMOST a done deal (so they say)...it would have been thought UNFATHOMABLE that "little" Flight Options would be the one taking over.... YET IT HAPPENED.
Then, after the dust had settled and any unionizing back to square one, Big Raytheon is back at the helm, recently taking over more than 90 percent ownership. (Ever hear of them?... HUGE company, unlimited government contracts, etc).
Back at NetJets, the powers that be suddenly decide to "give in to union demands" (after several years), giving much more than they likely intend to pay in all actuality...HOW, you say?
Well, in case you've missed it, fractional ownership has come into light as being not the big profitable deal it was originally thought to be. SO, if not (see article "Fact or Fraction" via google)... Then the allegedly "New" plane fractionals would be the ones headed for the biggest dive as they charge the most...for planes that, in all reality aren't all that much newer (OH YEAH...and what company MAKES a lot of these planes???...RAYTHEON).
Now, knowing this latest downward trend in fractional providers, and having a HUGE interest in its profit and survival...MAYBE Momma Raytheon sees an opportunity... BUY NETJETS (not the other way around)...operate under the premise of Flops plan... (*EXCEPT* bring in management that is not incompetent, and run it efficiently)...and guess what...Uncle Warren walks away fat & happy...and no more profit down the drain (which would be moreso with the union contract)... OR**** Maybe Uncle Warren is in "silent partner cahoots" with Raytheon to share in this venture without the headache of the union. (It HAS been done, as you see).
So now, not only will Raytheon be MAKING the planes, but they can (plan) to run a lower cost plan which will result in higher profits for them...with no middle man between the assmebly line and accounts receivable for the fractional contracts.
Where does that leave the NetJets contract? Why, stapled to the bottom, of course! ...JUST like they'd plan to do with FLOPS...except THIS scenario seems the most likely to me, as NetJets would CERTAINLY not approve such a contract, intending to bring on an additional pilot force as large as Flops to add to the burden.
Not likely? Neither was Flops "taking over" RTA...Welcome to big corporate and the art of the union bust. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER...
Just think about THIS: WHY do NetJets pilots have SUCH a big interest in spending their free time "helping" FLOPS pilots? WHY is the FLOPS IBT board completely under the NetJets IBT umbrella (so they know what's going on at every second)....
Tell me. WHY the sudden caring about FLOPS pilots? Hmmmm...
addendum: The preceding speculation, while highly likely, is...like other garbage posted, just speculation...yet a distinct possibility...think for YOURSELF, weigh BOTH possibilties...yet KNOW that there are games being played on BOTH sides, so decide READING ALL possibilities
(...OH, I know...so and so TALKED to so and so big cheese and so and so rumor is a "done deal"...aren't they ALL)
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