Flops - Do You Have What It Takes?

[cjdriver]

Was the STFD comment to a pax? Is he still employed?

 

[AceCrackshot]

It was during a personal conversation in APA. Mostly he was tired of being jacked around by management. Many people have invested their entire working lives at FLOPS. Some were Corporate Wings guys from back in the day. They just can't believe how things have changed. I see this as your standard Mark 2, Mod 0 negotiation campaign. Its frustrating to me bacause Management is playing with fire. The company can go hardball all they want, be we're not Northwest or even NetJets. When we lose owners, I'm afraid its for good. The management team/legal team mostly hail from an airline background, so they think they'll roll hard on us, and after the contract is signed, then it will be sweetness and light again. That's usually how it is in the 121 world. I just don't think it will play out like that here.

I've had TWO different owners say "I share your frustration, this is my sixth messed up trip" and "you guys seem frustrated" during this last rotation. There was a time when I toed the party line. I tried to put a positive spin on the mistakes company made. Not anymore. I won't lie for County. I tell the owners the facts, and they are not in dispute.

I am under no obligation to lie to an owner. The threatened layoffs, the no notice shutdowns of mx bases, insurance rate hikes, loss of per diem, etc. are in the public domain.

 

[jetwash]

I think he means Shut This F***** Down !!!!

 

[TWA]

It is very easy to have a no notice shut down of a mx base when all of the mechanics just leave. Management didn't even have notice. Which startup airline did they all go to? I know it was in Colorado or somewhere out west.

 

[netjetwife]

During the NJ contract battle there were consistently two types that kept trying to drag down the group--the very selfish and the very fearful. When I read comments like "At least you're still employed" it all comes back to me. My advice--cover your eyes... Block it out and carry on!

TWA, yes the Flt Ops pilots are angry right now and they have every right to be. Personally, I love reading their angry posts. It means they have a sense of self-worth and the courage to stand up for themselves and their families. They are doing their jobs right. If there are problems, it lies with management--not pilots. It's wrong to expect the pilots and their families to bear the brunt of managers' mistakes.

There is also a lot of good happening for the Options pilots. They've come far and they're staying in the fight. Their camaraderie is developing and they can take pride in the stand they're making for the profession. On the board there are now calls for Flex pilots to turn in their cards. Options' fight has given hope to other pilots. That is evidence they're right on track.

Some complimentary words of encouragement for Flt Ops Pilots...
Those irrationally disgusted need not look. It's not for you, anyway...

http://www.bluemountain.com/view.pd?i=150611807&m=1932&rr=y&source=bma999

 

[hawkerflyer]

"Cleveland carpet dance", "Koolaid dispensers i.s.o. coffee pots"
You guys are cracking me up.

 

[greygoose]

- be one of Scheeringa's "Soldiers of Safety, Service and PROFITABILITY"

Had a instructor tell the guy i'm flying with "Don't listen to what FSS says, if there is no pireps." I told him sounds like a ASAP report to me, he got jelly feet over submitting it.

 

[AceCrackshot]

Had a instructor tell the guy i'm flying with "Don't listen to what FSS says, if there is no pireps." I told him sounds like a ASAP report to me, he got jelly feet over submitting it.

A spine salesman would go broke at this company.

 

[netjetwife]

Perhaps not, Ace. There does seem to be a need for that particular product these days. The good news is that the more the pilots stand together and the closer the line is, the easier it is to hold one another up. There's strength in numbers! And just causes take on momentum the louder you speak out. Flt Ops pilots have a great advantage over management--it's hard to argue with the truth! Hold the line and others will join you. NJW

 

[DObyDEFAULT]

Sheeringa is a CLOWN -- I don't care what anyone says, when security has to escort you to / from your car at work, you are royally f%*!ing up the company you are supposed to run and scr#wing every employee personally in the &#% --- without saying a word to the customers, worn out, unhappy, downtrodden, screwd, disgruntled pilots convey that sate of mind to owners and passengers -- any management type worth a hill 'o beans knows it.


UNHAPPY PILOTS = UNHAPPY OWNERS

PLUG THAT INTO YOUR SLASH AND BURN MACHINE "CALCULATOR" MIKEY