Flight opts vote YES for union

[jetwash]

It's a YES for flight options pilots union !!!!!
Just received the e mail






Cheers !!!!!!!!!:beer:

 

[Guitar Guy]

Any details available on the percentage of pilots who voted and what the score was for yes votes?

Congratulations to the FLOPS pilots. I hope you receive a good contract in the very near future.

 

[jetwash]

795 possible voters.


533 voted for the IBT.



67% in favor.


2 write-in votes:

1 for ALPA

1 for "Flight Options in-house"

 

[luvu]

a new day!

This represents a lot of hard work and pulling together across this industry. Thanks Netjets pilots and ASAP for your help starting over a year ago to put this industry back on the right track.

Your help was and is appreciated and I honestly think this couldn't have been pulled off without the support of all you fellow fractional pilots that went before us and lent us your coat tails.

Hm, Hm and by the way. Could you continue to lend your support as the new FLOPS contract is negotiated?

The way I see it. FLOPS pilots should be asking for what Netjets pilots think they want to see in Netjets' next contract.

This could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship!

 

[CA1900]

Awesome! Very glad to hear it for you guys. 67% is impressive -- if it's good enough for congress to override a veto, it should good enough to be considered a landslide when dealing with your management.

Good work!

 

[buttercup]

Why only 67% for? With the way you guys have been treated I expected the number to be in the 80's.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Thanks for the info, jetwash. Glad to see a strong turnout for the vote.

But I have one question:

1 for "Flight Options in-house"

How did Mike Scheeringa get to vote?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Why only 67% for? With the way you guys have been treated I expected the number to be in the 80's.

Almost 70% is pretty darned good, considering you will ALWAYS have those people who are apathetic enough to "forget", or those who think that surely its such an obvious outcome for yes that they don't bother...
I disagree with that thinking, but thinking this is an awfully high number when you factor in that kind of thing....

 

[luvu]

in one word fear

Why only 67% for? With the way you guys have been treated I expected the number to be in the 80's.

rumours and memories from the last union drive when program managers went around saying that raytheon had illegally found out who had sent in cards. This combined with the subsequent drumming out of a lot of RTA people post merger still haunts some people.

The pilots that sent in their cards and voted in this election overcame an institionalized anti-union bias and hostility.

These are men and women of courage. Now that they have done the heavy lifting I expect those that follow will do that and follow these brave pilots' lead.

Expect to be in the 90% of union support by the time the first contract vote faces ratification.

I expect a run on ASAP luggage tags and lapel pins in the near future.

Strength through unity.

 

[Dep676]

I think the whole FOPA thing got a few wait and see. Otherwise I think it would have been closer 80%.

 

[luvu]

question for the class

Does this mean that we can expect BH to tender his resignation? Leader of the "if you don't like it here why don't you leave" and "I will never work in a teamsters shop" coalition is facing gut check time.

So, BH? What's it going to be?

 

[HawkerDOG]

Wonder if it will Sell?

I often wonder what is in the cards now regarding Raytheon kepping or selling the whole operation. Especially since they drew back in all the mechanics, did not offer any pensions or Benefits, and yet they own 100% of the operation. Has anyone asked why?
I believe that the operation will be sold to another investor or fractional. However, before you say it cannot get any worse harken back to the last merger we all went through. Aaaaaggggg, that was a nightmare no one should endure!
Run Away Fast....

 

[Wyatt]

Does this mean that we can expect BH to tender his resignation? Leader of the "if you don't like it here why don't you leave" and "I will never work in a teamsters shop" coalition is facing gut check time.

So, BH? What's it going to be?

We can expect BH to act like he was for the Union all the time and that he wants to head the MEC....

NOT!

Hes going nowhere after all he needs us to help "supplement his Military Pension"

For the rest of us a new day has dawned. Lets get it together brothers and sisters and make FLOPS a great place to work.

 

[Jetsi]

Congratulations to all at FLOPS.

Now the obvious question.

WHAT THE HECK TOOK YOU SO LONG?

I gave the collective RTA/FLOPS 4.5 years of my life, and couldn't wait any longer. I hope things improve dramatically in the coming months.

Jetsi

 

[Jetnw]

Congrats and hopefully this will bring about some positive change for your crews!!!!











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[ghostrider64]

First and foremost...get on your own 1108 flops message board and communicate!

Until you have everyone on the same sheet of music you will be doomed to a long drawn out process. In other words many in your company will need to be educated on their "individual" responsibilities to expedite the process of obtaining your first CBA.

I don't know what your specific issues are at FLOPS so I can't comment on what you need to fix those. What I can comment on is that I saw a very senior flops captain berate an fo about Unionization. You will need to approach these folks and get them ONBOARD.

Congrats and good luck.

 

[BrnJetFuel]

Congrats!!!!

Now the real work begins. The vehicle has been given, but it's time for those of you at flops to drive the distance. Stay strong!

 

[netjetwife]

Naturally, this calls for a card!

I couldn't be more pleased! My family will go out this weekend to celebrate your victory.
I trust you guys cast a vote on my behalf, right? Thanks for the early birthday present!

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1108--CHANGING THE FRACTIONAL INDUSTRY, A COMPANY AT A TIME

 

[FAcFriend]

the rising tide drowns the boatless-

 

[p3hawk]

Fantastic!!

Relish this moment ya'll, Im only sorry we didn't get this done sooner rather than later, during the first union vote at the merger. To Phoenix and the rest who backed this endevor I will GLADLY buy the first round. (as soon as I get out of NetJet training .

See ya'll on the line, Happy Trails P3hawk

 

[Hogprint]

Can't reiterate this enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First and foremost...get on your own 1108 flops message board and communicate!

Until you have everyone on the same sheet of music you will be doomed to a long drawn out process. In other words many in your company will need to be educated on their "individual" responsibilities to expedite the process of obtaining your first CBA.

I don't know what your specific issues are at FLOPS so I can't comment on what you need to fix those. What I can comment on is that I saw a very senior flops captain berate an fo about Unionization. You will need to approach these folks and get them ONBOARD.

Congrats and good luck.

Like one poster stated, "the heavy lifting has been done". Think of it as the clean and jerk. You just got the barbell up to your knees or chest. You still need the extra push to get it over your head.

Ghostrider is right on target. Talk to everyone you fly with. Have the website on hand for the folks that don't have it. Have important numbers readily available. You'll be surprised how many are just waiting to be led to the watering hole.

Communication is the key. That can't be overstated.

 

[Hogprint]

I almost forgot. Congrats!

 

[gunfyter]

the rising tide drowns the boatless-

That sounds profound. How about this:

"its better to burn out, than it is to rust." Neil Young

or;

"Blacken all marks dark and heavy." The College Board

or;

"While you live, Drink -- for once dead, you never shall return."
Rubiat of Omar Khayyam (or was it the Ruby Yacht -- Rocky and Bullwinkle.)