Flight Instructors forced to wear epaulates

[CX880]

I thought I'd seen it all but on my way to the airport, I see this guy in what looked to be "captains" uniform on his motorcycle holding a McDonald bag rushing toward the airport. Seriously? Show some professional courtesy to your fellow pilots and put something on to cover yourself and put that Mcd bag somehwere where so that the world can't know that you make 5 dollars an hour.

By the way I'm assuming it was an instructor because all the circumstance lead me to believe that he was, it was an outstation too.

 

[propilot]

Your argument for it being an instructor holds about as much water as a colander...

 

[nisx]

He has a job at least. Some people are not so lucky right now. Making 5 is better than making zero. Give the guy a break.

 

[brokeflyer]

I thought I'd seen it all but on my way to the airport, I see this guy in what looked to be "captains" uniform on his motorcycle holding a McDonald bag rushing toward the airport. Seriously? Show some professional courtesy to your fellow pilots and put something on to cover yourself and put that Mcd bag somehwere where so that the world can't know that you make 5 dollars an hour.

By the way I'm assuming it was an instructor because all the circumstance lead me to believe that he was, it was an outstation too.

i think he should hold a sign showing who he works for so the world will know what this is making.

who do you work for CX?

 

[LearLove]

No he (CX880) is a GoJet scumbag who shouldn't be commenting on anybodys job considering the necks he stepped on when he took a job at GoJets.

BTW CX880 your entire post is a waste of space (like your life).

 

[brokeflyer]

No he (CX880) is a GoJet scumbag who shouldn't be commenting on anybodys job considering the necks he stepped on when he took a job at GoJets.

BTW CX880 your entire post is a waste of space (like your life).

lol....you work at gojets and think you can criticize about a cfi eating MacDonalds?

you're only about 3 ft in front of him kid.....lol

 

[avbug]

Show some professional courtesy to your fellow pilots and put something on to cover yourself and put that Mcd bag somehwere where so that the world can't know that you make 5 dollars an hour.

Meaning what, exactly?

Professionals don't eat at McDonalds? I've had days when eating at McDonalds was a treat, or the only option, and I have zero problem being seen in uniform in line at McDonalds. Then again, I see a lot of major crewmembers picking up lunch at McDonalds in terminals during a turn.

Why should the flight instructor cover himself or herself? Is a flight instructor not allowed to wear a uniform? Do you dictate what others wear? Do you dictate what flight schools require? What business is it of yours?

You know what this individual was making per hour? Why is it your business? Why is it your concern whether the world knows what the instructor makes? Should you not mind your own business?

Point of fact, it's none of your business. It's none of your business what the instructor wears. It's none of your business what the instructor makes. It's none of your business where the instructor eats. It's none of your business what the instructor drives or owns. It's none of your business where the individual works, or how much he or she makes for a living, or who else may know what he or she makes.

Post less stupidly next time.

 

[CX880]

No he (CX880) is a GoJet scumbag who shouldn't be commenting on anybodys job considering the necks he stepped on when he took a job at GoJets.

BTW CX880 your entire post is a waste of space (like your life).

Hey you fly for jetblue. how many Alpa necks did you step on?

 

[CX880]

Meaning what, exactly?

Professionals don't eat at McDonalds? I've had days when eating at McDonalds was a treat, or the only option, and I have zero problem being seen in uniform in line at McDonalds. Then again, I see a lot of major crewmembers picking up lunch at McDonalds in terminals during a turn.

Why should the flight instructor cover himself or herself? Is a flight instructor not allowed to wear a uniform? Do you dictate what others wear? Do you dictate what flight schools require? What business is it of yours?

You know what this individual was making per hour? Why is it your business? Why is it your concern whether the world knows what the instructor makes? Should you not mind your own business?

Point of fact, it's none of your business. It's none of your business what the instructor wears. It's none of your business what the instructor makes. It's none of your business where the instructor eats. It's none of your business what the instructor drives or owns. It's none of your business where the individual works, or how much he or she makes for a living, or who else may know what he or she makes.

Post less stupidly next time.

You can wait with your underwear at the terminal Mcdonalds for all I care, that's the airport and you work there. I'm talking about outside, like at the grocery store or at Walmart. I think it was not professional... holding his bag while riding the motorcycle, flooring it etc. It's just an image thing. By the way, what is with this what he makes deal? Who cares what he makes, I just commented on how cheap his image looked. That's all.

 

[CX880]

Your argument for it being an instructor holds about as much water as a colander...

oh please, only flight instructors that think they're airline pilots and guys still on IOE wear their uniform off work and at walmart. I don't think this guy was on IOE. It's kind of like seeing a doctor still wearing his surgical outfit walking around the grocery store, it just doesn't seem right. I always pull a superman when I off duty.

 

[avbug]

I think it was not professional... holding his bag while riding the motorcycle, flooring it etc. It's just an image thing.

It's not your image. You want to provide different transportation for that individual? You want to provide a different meal for him? You want to get him saddle bags, instead? Feel free. Until you step up, then you've really got no place to talk. Perhaps you can stop living other people's lives, and get on with your own.

Is there something about being a pilot which precludes riding a motorcycle? Is it just flight instructors who shouldn't ride motorcycles? What is it about a motorcycle which you feel dishonors you and the work clothes that this pilot was wearing when you saw him?

Doctors ride a motorcycle in scrubs, and nobody cares. Attorneys sometimes ride them in their suit. Nobody cares. I've ridden them in a flight suit and in my shirt-and-tie-and-shoulderboards monkey suit. Nobody cares. A uniform equates working clothes...the stuff one wears to one's job. That's it. It's not a flag. It's not a sacred shroud. It's a uniform, period.

Mind your own business.

It's kind of like seeing a doctor still wearing his surgical outfit walking around the grocery store, it just doesn't seem right.

Not a problem. See it all the time. As well as police officers, attorneys, pilots, soldiers, school teachers, baseball players, security guards, clerks from home depot, sanitation workers, librarians, bicyclists, and anyone else you might care to mention wearing uniforms, name tags, sam browne duty belts, etc. It's just not a big deal.

Mind your own business.

oh please, only flight instructors that think they're airline pilots and guys still on IOE wear their uniform off work and at walmart.

Ah, you have some prejudice that divides an instructor from one who flies for an airline, do you? It's okay for airline pilots to wear their uniform on the way home from the airport, into a grocery store or walmart, but not an instructor? Quite frankly, I wear my uniform into a store on the way home; I'm not going to go change then come back to pick up something at the store. So does everybody else, in all manner of professions. Are you going to try to conduct everyone else's life, or just your own.

Mind your own business.

I always pull a superman when I off duty.

Bully for you. Big deal. You don't see anybody telling you to take off your uniform, or put it on, do you? Perhaps others are willing to let you live your own life, without sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

Not everyone wants to be superman. Just you.

Mind your own business.

By the way, what is with this what he makes deal? Who cares what he makes, I just commented on how cheap his image looked. That's all.

What's with what he makes? Who cares? You do, apparently, as it was in your first post. Don't you read what you type? It was you that said "Show some professional courtesy to your fellow pilots and put something on to cover yourself and put that Mcd bag somehwere where so that the world can't know that you make 5 dollars an hour," wasn't it??

Turns out that the only person who really cares, is you. It's you that is concerned that the instructor doesn't let the world know he makes five dollars an hour. Let's be honest, though. You have no idea what the instructor is making. You really have no idea if he's an instructor at all, do you? Are you simply guessing, and spouting off here without any foundation or fact?

Mind your own business.

 

[CX880]

Take it off lol

Ive yet to see any surgeon or cop walking around the walmart in their uniform.

It's the professional thing to do, it's about showing a positive image.

Many people out there, despite what has happened the last decade with the profession, still respect pilots. That's pretty much all there is left of this profession. They have an image of us as professionals. That gets tarnshied as we walk around walmart holding chips and beer or driving our motorcycles in full uniform clutching a McDonalds bag.

Nothing against Mcdonalds, and nothing against motorcycles.

 

[avbug]

Take it off lololololol

You're not an English major, are you?

Of curiosity, why did you title the thread "Flight Instructors forced to wear epaulates" when the title has nothing to do with the subject? You don't know that this individual was an instructor, or that the instructor was forced to wear anything.

It's epaulettes, by the way. In the event you didn't know, the epaulettes are the sewn part of the shirt, over which a shoulder board or shoulder mark is inserted. Most pilot uniform shirts have epaulettes sewn on, whereas pilots may or may not put shoulder boards on them.

Ive yet to see any surgeon or cop walking around the walmart in their uniform.

Ah, well. If you haven't seen it, then it doesn't exist, right? Given that you're qualified to poke your nose in other's business to the point of deciding what they drive, what and where they eat, what they wear, where they work, and how much they make, it's little wonder that if you didn't see it, it doesn't count or never happened.

I see it all the time, mate.

What has walmart to do with the price of tea in china. Was the alleged instructor you saw driving his motorcycle doing so in walmart? You have a walmart fixation, and apparently now decide what people wear to walmart, as well as being the self-appointed determiner of what instructors, pilots, and the world population in general is allowed to wear.

Mind your own business.

 

[JAFI]

I can remember on a full student schedule my boss throwing a Hamburger in the cockpit for me as I was taxing out with the next student and I was thankful for the meal. Maybe the "Instructor" had just enough time between flights to grab and "Speed off" back to the airport with his lunch.

Unprofessional you say. I think not.

If you cared so much for "The Profession" and remembered what some busy days were like as a Flight Instructor, you should buy that underpaid "Professional" a meal and wish him well or you could just turn your nose up and feel self important.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Why should the flight instructor cover himself or herself? Is a flight instructor not allowed to wear a uniform?
What business is it of yours?

I think it's the business of all professional pilots. The majority of us pilots wear the same white shirts & shoulder boards and the general public recognizes that as the standard pilot uniform. The public cannot tell the difference when they see a seasoned 747 captain in his uniform compared to seeing an instructor from your local flight academy in his uniform. Same uniform.
It's common practice at most companies (including my airline) that crewmembers are not permitted to wear the uniform outside of duty, including running into the supermarket or other business establishments on your way home from work, etc...
When some knucklehead is zipping around town on his motorcycle carrying a McDonald's bag while wearing a pilot uniform, it reflects negatively on all of us. It looks unprofessional, mainly because it's something you typically don't expect to see. We're not only representing our specific company when we're in uniform, but we're also representing our profession.
The public already has a somewhat negative image of pilots. Riding around on motorcycles in uniform seems pompous and is in bad taste.
Put on a riding jacket like 90% of all other motorcycle riders do. Not wearing a jacket to cover his uniform leads me to believe he was taking extra measures to be sure everybody he passes sees that he's a pilot.