I'm a little blown away at the vehement attack on the N/C for the first year pay in the TA. First off, do you want them fighting for more first year and get a little less elsewhere in the contract? That's how it works, you fight for how much you think you can get and than you have to decide how it is divided up throughout the contract, pay, work rules etc.
First year pay sucks, always has and always will, because nobody wants to pay more first year and pay less for the rest of your career. Right wrong or indifferent, that's the way our industry is.
I also saw people complaining about ALPA. ALPA is the vehicle, it's up to the drivers what they do with it, I'm certain these guys did the best they could under the circumstances, I wasn't there, so all I can say is good job and I'm sure you got a lot more than management wanted to give under very tough circumstances. The angry haters in the pilot group are going to monday morning quarterback you to death. Only they had the big picture of how long the pilot resolve could be counted on and how much they could push management. Way more complex than most realize.
I say good job balancing peoples lives with the reality of your situation.
Finally, the comments made included "Hawaiian got a good contract, how come you couldn't do that?!" Well yes we did, it took many contract negotiations, we didn't do it in one contract. BTW, HAL's first year is $36, Spirit's is 40-44.
First year pay sucks, always has and always will, because nobody wants to pay more first year and pay less for the rest of your career. Right wrong or indifferent, that's the way our industry is.
I also saw people complaining about ALPA. ALPA is the vehicle, it's up to the drivers what they do with it, I'm certain these guys did the best they could under the circumstances, I wasn't there, so all I can say is good job and I'm sure you got a lot more than management wanted to give under very tough circumstances. The angry haters in the pilot group are going to monday morning quarterback you to death. Only they had the big picture of how long the pilot resolve could be counted on and how much they could push management. Way more complex than most realize.
I say good job balancing peoples lives with the reality of your situation.
Finally, the comments made included "Hawaiian got a good contract, how come you couldn't do that?!" Well yes we did, it took many contract negotiations, we didn't do it in one contract. BTW, HAL's first year is $36, Spirit's is 40-44.