First SLI thread of the day

[prtyprtyprncss]

Ohmyfreakingodpeople! Grammar! : )

 

[gojo]

Sounds to me that someone is a little sensitive. Your rebuttal reeks of projection.

You project your own sense of inferiority when you look at the analogy and assume home = purebred and pound puppy = mutt. He did not say nor imply anything of the sort... and the only insults in Higney's thread are the ones your head.

Now if you have problem being a pound puppy, too bad. You are the new dog to this yard. And yeah, I sympathize... but that's the way the industry works.

Next time, it'll be my turn.

Sensitive maybe, but how many shots across the bow does it take for you to realize somebody is shoting at you

 

[SEVEN]

Sounds to me that someone is a little sensitive. Your rebuttal reeks of projection.

You project your own sense of inferiority when you look at the analogy and assume home = purebred and pound puppy = mutt. He did not say nor imply anything of the sort... and the only insults in Higney's thread are the ones your head.

Now if you have problem being a pound puppy, too bad. You are the new dog to this yard. And yeah, I sympathize... but that's the way the industry works.

Next time, it'll be my turn.

You're in over your head. Time to stop now. I'll throw in the towel for you. Your welcome. And FYI, we are taking over the yard.....just in case you weren't sure.

 

[Simon Says]

1. The 9E guys did negotiate. They are the only group that actually changed their proposals through the entire process. There is no point to NOT negotiating in front of an arbitrator.
2. The list had no "additions" or "changes". The column that had the checkride date was simply removed in accordance with the JCBA leaving class date as DOH in seniority order. There was no re-shuffling or changes. The list was the same as the one used in negotiations from 7/1/10 with the exception of all NH's and XJ furloughs added below in DOH (only class date) order per the process/protocol agreement.
3. Status/Category was done at the regional level purely by pay. At the majors you use widebody/narrowbody due to pay.
4. There has been no comms between groups, between bloch, nobody. We have all been waiting on Bloch since tuesday after everyone responded to the list/disputes.
5. I sincerely apologize if some guys have their head in the sand about this "purchase". We did not buy you. Corp owns all 3 of us. It's as if Pinnacle, Inc. was the family dog; Colgan showed up as a stray and didn't play with us in the yard; and now XJ got picked up at the pound. We are all in the same yard and each one wants to be the "Alpa dog". In the end we are all in the same situation with the same amount of influence.

Higney, I appreciate your willingness to serve. You stepped up to the plate. I don't know the finer details of the Pinnacle MEC, but from what I have seen personally now (and not rumor) The place was and is a train wreck. The list is long with mis-steps and I am not shy to rise up against the leadership of them. I am sure they have the same goals as myself in this industry, but their methods and discipline of reaching those goals is horrific.

With that said I absolutely seperate the Pinnacle MEC and LEC reps from the rest of the Pinnacle pilot group. I look forward to working with each and every one of them. Even the ****************************** bags, cuz we got a few too. I feel that your pilot group has been beaten down for so long that all the group knows is disapointment and dispare. It is not their fault for feeling this way. You beat somebody down for so long and that is all they know. I am looking forward to change. We all are being served on a platter of change from the CEO all the way down to the line pilots, bases, and equipment.

Now for the SLI, points you made. As to addition and changes. Yes, their were. Ask J.H. if terminated pilots were added to the last list submitted. Ask him if some pilots were not even on the last list submitted (lets just call that the PM list) Yes their was at least one pilot that was left off the list due to a lack of oversight from Pinnacle SLI committee. And he was found by our SLI committee. I got his name if you want it?

Ask JH if their were email exchanges on the 25th and what he wanted. There is more to the story of checkride data point, DOH data point, and senority date data point.

Please engage JH or even better yet cross check his answers given to you based on verifable data from a seperate source.

My last point of this aurgument is this. JH blamed the company for bad data. Do you know who actually owns a senority list? It is ALPA and not the company. We are the ones responsible for making sure it is correct and if the company cannot come up with a proper list it is ALPA that corrects it. I suppose it is a joint responsability, but ALPA owns the document. So JH's excuse for the company giving bad data doesn't fly with me, it is ultimately his responsability.

 

[RJLoser]

You're in over your head. Time to stop now. I'll throw in the towel for you. Your welcome. And FYI, we are taking over the yard.....just in case you weren't sure.

I'm gonna hang on to this one for after the list comes out.

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

Higney, I appreciate your willingness to serve. You stepped up to the plate. I don't know the finer details of the Pinnacle MEC, but from what I have seen personally now (and not rumor) The place was and is a train wreck. The list is long with mis-steps and I am not shy to rise up against the leadership of them. I am sure they have the same goals as myself in this industry, but their methods and discipline of reaching those goals is horrific.

With that said I absolutely seperate the Pinnacle MEC and LEC reps from the rest of the Pinnacle pilot group. I look forward to working with each and every one of them. Even the ****************************** bags, cuz we got a few too. I feel that your pilot group has been beaten down for so long that all the group knows is disapointment and dispare. It is not their fault for feeling this way. You beat somebody down for so long and that is all they know. I am looking forward to change. We all are being served on a platter of change from the CEO all the way down to the line pilots, bases, and equipment.

Now for the SLI, points you made. As to addition and changes. Yes, their were. Ask J.H. if terminated pilots were added to the last list submitted. Ask him if some pilots were not even on the last list submitted (lets just call that the PM list) Yes their was at least one pilot that was left off the list due to a lack of oversight from Pinnacle SLI committee. And he was found by our SLI committee. I got his name if you want it?

Ask JH if their were email exchanges on the 25th and what he wanted. There is more to the story of checkride data point, DOH data point, and senority date data point.

Please engage JH or even better yet cross check his answers given to you based on verifable data from a seperate source.

My last point of this aurgument is this. JH blamed the company for bad data. Do you know who actually owns a senority list? It is ALPA and not the company. We are the ones responsible for making sure it is correct and if the company cannot come up with a proper list it is ALPA that corrects it. I suppose it is a joint responsability, but ALPA owns the document. So JH's excuse for the company giving bad data doesn't fly with me, it is ultimately his responsability.

Sigh......:erm:

 

[SEVEN]

I'm gonna hang on to this one for after the list comes out.

Better yet, why don't you frame it.

 

[Simon Says]

Sigh......:erm:

I know, I know....grammar and spelling. Sorry, but for crying out loud can't we get spell check on this thing.

 

[suupah]

Sigh......:erm:

Is you an Engrish teacha?

 

[MACH-TUCK]

Geeeez, I hope this is over soon, I can't stand reading anymore of this crap!!

Happy Memorial Day everyone!!!