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cbrown1

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I think I’m right but I just want to double check something, tell me if I’m wrong. If I got a first class medical in March of 06, I would still have first class privileges until the end of September. Right?

 
A first class medical issued on 3/1/06 or 3/31/06 will lose its first class privilieges on 9/30/06. It's still a first class medical, it just reverts to a second class for the following 6 months.
 
Amish RakeFight said:
A first class medical issued on 3/1/06 or 3/31/06 will lose its first class privilieges on 9/30/06. It's still a first class medical, it just reverts to a second class for the following 6 months.

Yeah, Thats what I thought too but just wanted someone to confrim.

Thanks
 
That first class medical does NOT revert to a second class after six months. The class of medical certificate does not change. The privileges for which it is valid changes, but it is an issued certificate, much like your pilot certificate, which does not change in class six months, a year, or ten years later. Ten years later it may no longer be valid for airman privileges, but it's still a first class medical certificate.

Medical certificates do not revert from one class to another.
 
avbug said:
That first class medical does NOT revert to a second class after six months. The class of medical certificate does not change. The privileges for which it is valid changes, but it is an issued certificate, much like your pilot certificate, which does not change in class six months, a year, or ten years later. Ten years later it may no longer be valid for airman privileges, but it's still a first class medical certificate.

Medical certificates do not revert from one class to another.

You may have misread what I wrote as I said it was STILL a first class medical. Perhaps I should be more explicit. It reverts to privileges associated with a second class medical.

Amish RakeFight said:
A first class medical issued on 3/1/06 or 3/31/06 will lose its first class privilieges on 9/30/06. It's still a first class medical, it just reverts to a second class for the following 6 months.




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Can someone point me to where this is stated in the FAR/AIM. I am reading under 61.23

(d) Duration of a medical certificate. (1) A first-class medical certificate expires at the end of the last day of—
(i) The sixth month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate for operations requiring an airline transport pilot certificate;
(ii) The 12th month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate for operations requiring a commercial pilot certificate or an air traffic control tower operator certificate; and
(iii) The period specified in paragraph (c)(3) of this section for operations requiring a recreational pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate (when acting as pilot in command or a required pilot flight crewmember in operations other than glider or balloon), or a student pilot certificate.




Part (ii) is what is confusing me. It seems in instances that require a CPL the first class is good for 12 calendar months. I know I'm reading it wrong because I just got sent home from an interview for interpreting this paragraph incorrectly. I've talked to some friends that have explained it to me. But reading this paragraph is still confusing the hell out of me.
 
Can someone point me to where this is stated in the FAR/AIM. I am reading under 61.23

(d) Duration of a medical certificate. (1) A first-class medical certificate expires at the end of the last day of—
(i) The sixth month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate for operations requiring an airline transport pilot certificate;
(ii) The 12th month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate for operations requiring a commercial pilot certificate or an air traffic control tower operator certificate; and
(iii) The period specified in paragraph (c)(3) of this section for operations requiring a recreational pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate (when acting as pilot in command or a required pilot flight crewmember in operations other than glider or balloon), or a student pilot certificate.




Part (ii) is what is confusing me. It seems in instances that require a CPL the first class is good for 12 calendar months. I know I'm reading it wrong because I just got sent home from an interview for interpreting this paragraph incorrectly. I've talked to some friends that have explained it to me. But reading this paragraph is still confusing the hell out of me.

Pretty simple, really. Say that your first class medical is issued on 1/1/07.

-If you're exercising the privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate, you can exercise those privileges with that medical certificate from 1/1/07 until 7/31/07 (a 6 month period).

-If you're exercising the privileges of a commercial pilot certificate, that first class medical certificate is valid from 1/1/07 until 1/31/08 (a 12 month period).

If that's what you told them, I don't see why you would have gotten sent home. That's the letter of the law.
 
You may have misread what I wrote as I said it was STILL a first class medical. Perhaps I should be more explicit. It reverts to privileges associated with a second class medical.






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Ahhh, but in your first post, you said "reverts to a second class"...instead of "second class priviledges".

You know we don't care, but its the kind of thing Avbug jumps on to make himself feel more godlike.
 
Pretty simple, really. Say that your first class medical is issued on 1/1/07.

-If you're exercising the privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate, you can exercise those privileges with that medical certificate from 1/1/07 until 7/31/07 (a 6 month period).

-If you're exercising the privileges of a commercial pilot certificate, that first class medical certificate is valid from 1/1/07 until 1/31/08 (a 12 month period).

If that's what you told them, I don't see why you would have gotten sent home. That's the letter of the law.

I wasn't even in the interview yet. This was about ten minutes into filling out paperwork. Pulled outside and told my First Class is expired and said I could come back in three months. They requested pre-interview a valid First Class Medical with First Class privledges. The way I interpreted the reg was since I don't have an ATP and I am not interviewing for a job that requires the ATP my 9 month old First Class was still valid. Now obviously I should have just got a new medical, but I didn't even think twice about it after reading the above reg. So I see it says it doesn't expire for 12 months but where does it talk about privledges?
 

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