FedEx Seat Bid

[PurpleTail]

More rumors..... that when we move the asian base to China, MD-10's will be the aircraft out there, not the Airbus......

Uh, thats not a rumor, that has been the plan all along. MD-11, A-380 will do the ocean crossings and the -10's intra-Asia.

The question is...will China be a base or will it be SIBA?

 

[FedEx1]

It's always a rumor until it is painted purple and sitting on the ramp. Heck, the plan was to get rid of the 727's in 1989.... Just trying to get out the info, and confuse as few as possible!

To add to that... keep a domicile in asia, but no one has said where. May not be in mainland China. I don't think they have it figured out.

I had heard from a check airman this week the seat bid was coming out Aug 5 for 100 widebody capts. No telling how many people would move with that.

 

[AlbieF15]

Enough trash talk, lets make a bet...

Junior MD11 FO at each base? A300 FO? Widebody and 727 captain? I'll throw out I think JR 727 captain will be May 02 hire...(optimistic but the stakes are play money here...) The Class of 96 will get their first widebody captain.

 

[angry tanker]

Alright Albie, you're on. Junior Wide body (both 11 and 300) will be a summer hire this year (class date before end of july). I'll give you 3 years to Capt of 72, and I'll go 5 years to Capt MD-11, but will be ANC.

 

[fartknocker]

This is not entirely true. American Eagle has a pilot base in SJU. 95% of our flights at SJU go to and from international destinations. I flew there for 2 years. There are several different countries represented in the Carribbean. These are just my thoughts.

 

[profile]

Carribean, by agreement, uses U.S. ATC procedures.

 

[fartknocker]

Carribean, by agreement, uses U.S. ATC procedures.

This is true in Puerto Rico, STT, and STX, but not in all the other islands in the Carribean. Once you get outside these 3, you are under ICAO rules. We flew all the way down the island chain from Tortola, to Trinidad and Tobago, and everything in between, and they were under ICAO.

 

[klhoard]

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Sometimes we even fly to California. If that doesn't qualify as International, I don't know what will.
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[profile]

The entire area is _supposed_ to use U.S. phraseology and procedures by LOA (an argument that was actually promulgated by FAA ATS management as a reason the U.S. shouldn't switch to ICAO terminology, you sort out that logic!), and if you look at the country differences, you'll see the local rules for each of the locations in the Carribean closely follow U.S. procedures. Sure, they're under ICAO, so is the U.S., but the U.S. publishes more exceptions to ICAO than just about any other country in the World.

Having flown both the area you're talking about and the "hard core" International on the other side of the planet, you're really talking apples and oranges here.

 

[fartknocker]

This sounds like some of the other arguments I've heard:

Is FedEx a major or cargo airline?

Is _________ (insert favorite large regional airline) a commuter or major airline?

Is Carribean international or domestic flying?

I just thought that when we were climbing out of FL 40 and setting the altimeter to 29.92, we were flying international. I've never seen this in the U.S. When we came back to SJU, we had to go through customs and immigration to enter the U.S. I thought that was international flying. Our flight ops were all flag operations rather than domestic according to our flight manual and ops specs.

I guess there are two sides to any argument.

 

[ICTS]

I'll play along...

Albie & Angry Tanker:

MD-11 Junior Man will be a new hire in the October '05 Class
Airbus Junior Man see aforementioned MD-11 guess
727 Captain (seniority isn't everthing, eh?) let's go with August '02 Class
(I'm torn, is it possible that the spring of '04 will have a shot, but I think the wide-body spots are more tempting)
Widebody -- MEM -- will be much later than 1996 -- there will be a Junior Captain from 1998.....

As for the bid: 148 Wide-Body Captains; and let's put Paris back on the map
new hires (beginning in the October class, straight to the -11 & Bus after the bid is dispersed next week)

 

[profile]

I just thought that when we were climbing out of FL 40 and setting the altimeter to 29.92, we were flying international. I've never seen this in the U.S. When we came back to SJU, we had to go through customs and immigration to enter the U.S. I thought that was international flying. Our flight ops were all flag operations rather than domestic according to our flight manual and ops specs.

Thanks for making my point for me.

 

[ilandopr]

I think that new hire seat availability is based on unfilled vacancies from the most recent bid. But hey, I might be wrong.
Anyway, with that being said, we would have to have right seat widebody bids go unfilled for them to be available to new hires. I just can't see that happening.

 

[ilandopr]

The right seat in Subic is the only widebody position that has had a history of unfilled bid vacancies.

 

[Beertini]

MD-11 Junior Man will be a new hire in the October '05 Class

That is only one month later than the September '05 guys that got the MD-11 right seat in the last bid.

Beertini

 

[ChinaClipper]

What so hard.........

about flying INTL? It just like any other type of flying, sound judgement, some bookwork, learn the in and outs, some Spanglish/Fringlish/Chinglish and your set. I flew all over the world on by reading a few pamphlets and hoping our Jepp dispatch guru REALLY understood that the FSU customs folks REALLY wanted to fine us 2 billion rubles for some obscure reason. Geezz, some of ya are making it out to be some sorta rubiks cube knowledge comprehendable to only a the exhualted few. My favorite these days is not that far: going to MMUN/Cancun on a weekend. Uncomprehendable controllers, about every 6th call answered, the uninitiated thinking a "low fuel" whine will get them ahead of the line (a Condor favorite) only to find them getting cleared to Cozumel. Fuzzy hold instructions and me saying "...good luck ya'll.." after we finally get cleared. Makes ya wish you were flying into Kai Tak when the winds were about 220/30G40 heading down the IGS 13.....ahhhhhh the good old days.........

 

[klhoard]

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[AlbieF15]

KLH,

Being local, would you move back to the 727 as a Capt given the chance? Is being a wide-body FO just too much fun?

Great choices coming for some guys...JR captain (TonyC), Widebody FO (like you) or hang out and get senior in the 727 (Jethro). I'd be interested in hearing everyone's take....

 

[Falconjet]

I'm just dying to see if the majority of folks who bid the right seat of the Bus this go around are going to come in on top of me or below me. I'm guessing that there will be more coming in on top of me than below me.


I sure don't mind either way, I just hope that they come from below.

I'm still betting on Aug 5th for the bid coming out.

FJ

 

[klhoard]

KLH,

Being local, would you move back to the 727 as a Capt given the chance? Is being a wide-body FO just too much fun?

Great choices coming for some guys...JR captain (TonyC), Widebody FO (like you) or hang out and get senior in the 727 (Jethro). I'd be interested in hearing everyone's take....

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A doctor once asked an asylum inmate why he banged his head on the wall. "Because it feels good when I stop". . . .
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However, that $40K / year pay raise would help out the B-Fund. . .
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