Fedex Rumors?

[Bosshog1]

sorry wrong thread

 

[Malter1]

What dates are they offering?

I don't know yet. I, no kidding, just got the message that KD called and have yet to talk to her.

 

[propjob27]

For the meet n greet question guys:

Did meet n greet in ANC: Feb of 05.
Called for interview: Oct of 05. (8 month time span)
Class date: January of 06.

And yes, Buck, if your times are correct in your profile, then that's VERY low for a straight civilian guy. (I had 6000 total, and the other civ guys in my interview group had about the same)

Definately keep updating the app!

 

[Uppercrust]

For the meet n greet question guys:

Did meet n greet in ANC: Feb of 05.
Called for interview: Oct of 05. (8 month time span)
Class date: January of 06.

And yes, Buck, if your times are correct in your profile, then that's VERY low for a straight civilian guy. (I had 6000 total, and the other civ guys in my interview group had about the same)

Definately keep updating the app!

Are classes conducted at night??? I heard the person who draws the shortest straw get the sims in the day. Is this true??

 

[propjob27]

Are classes conducted at night??? I heard the person who draws the shortest straw get the sims in the day. Is this true??

I may be a little slow, but I don't follow ya. As far as I know, my class will be held in the day time. At least day one starts at 0800. Who knows about the sim schedule though....

 

[Uppercrust]

I heard classes start at 10 PM???

 

[propjob27]

I heard classes start at 10 PM???

The first day of indoc starts at 0800. After that, I have no idea. I'll find out shortly....

 

[FedEx1]

Classroom instruction is at 8 am (or 9am). This is indoc and systems. When you get to the sim, only two guys per sim per 4 hours. So, in MEM.... 7-11 am, 11am-3pm, 3pm-7pm, 7pm-11pm. You show up about 2 hours prior for your brief. So, your SHOW time, is 5am, 9am, 1pm, 5pm. Maybe a half hour or so for de-brief.

Haven't seen the real late late stuff personally, but who knows with all the extra bodies needing to get through training. On the MD-11, the stuff above is the only sessions out there.... not sure if the 727 has changed since I was there.

We usually won't put you thru a "hub turn" until on the line!! (middle of the night stuff.)

Uppercrust, if you are having a spaz already about going to work at 10pm, maybe Fedex isn't for you.

 

[propjob27]

Uppercrust, if you are having a spaz already about going to work at 10pm, maybe Fedex isn't for you

I was thinking that exact same thing. Who knows, maybe he hasn't applied.

 

[New FDX Guy]

I was thinking that exact same thing. Who knows, maybe he hasn't applied.

I think that he has applied and now it's sour grapes. Sorry to let him know that in much less than a year on the line, I'm holding all day flying!!!

Gotta love it!

 

[BUCK]

FJ: Thanks for the encouragement. I did update my profile here so it would make more sense how I even got the meet and greet. I do update with FedEx much more frequently than here.

I had about 4200 when I met two ACPs in March. They both said "everything looks great, thanks for coming in". Not giving up, just updating and waiting.

 

[USNFDX]

Have heard a persistent rumor that the next seat bid will cover a longer time period...perhaps 2 years. Also, I keep hearing a rumor that new hires would be seat locked for two years. I am not in favor of either approach but thought I'd pass the rumor along.

I heard the same rumor about a 2+ year training cycle. The company feels that training is killing them. A guy gets hired, goes to the back of the 727, 4 months later he goes to the right seat of the 727, then a year later he's in training for the Madog. It's not just lost productivity of the guy in training, but all flex instructors that are doing it. I think the bean conters have figured out that it is cheaper to pay passover than it is to train a guy 3 times in a year in half. Particulary since pay is the same for all first year postions.

As far as being locked in for 2 years, the contract allows for it (passover pay), and there probably wouldn't be much sympathy. Many guys on the outside would kill to have that problem, most guys other than those hired in the past 2 1/2 year were stuck inthe back seat for 3-5+ years.

Oh, and I am part of the problem. In 4 yrs, I've been through 4 programs(27SO, 10SO 27FO 11FO).....Might make it 5 for 5....

 

[Ninerfan]

Lido Timeline

Just talked to a buddy of mine who was just in Standards to get his SIC license. The standards bubbas are going page by page on the new LIDO charts. Very painstaking. Took one group 2 days to QC the LAX LIDO charts. I bet we don't see them until June. Any other guesses?

 

[twgordy]

I know a gentleman who has been at the company less than 18 months and is currently enrolled in seat change number 4. Unbelievable..........

 

[Midnight Mike]

I know a gentleman who has been at the company less than 18 months and is currently enrolled in seat change number 4. Unbelievable..........

Sheesh, a buddy of mine at American, was on the 767, bounced to the MD80, received a bid for the A300, went through training and about a month on the line, another bid was awarded and went to 737NG trainng, never completed his IOE training on the A300.....

 

[Tomct]

Prop, you say 5000 is to low and yet Newfdxguy only has 2000, that is , if his profile is correct. If that is true, that is totally messed up! I support the military 110%, but that is rediculous!

 

[Diesel]

It's probably correct. Remember fedex is like 80+ percent military.

 

[sandman2122]

And you know this by..........?

I know you're joking Diesel, but if you have any facts that FedEx is "like 80+ % military" I would like to see it.

Signed,
Former 80+ % military guy......

 

[USNFDX]

It's probably correct. Remember fedex is like 80+ percent military.

Diesel and SWAF/O compete for the largest CHIP they can put their shoulder>

 

[Diesel]

largest chip- Nope don't think so. Fredex keeps me very happy.

Interestingly enough the percentage of washouts are equal across the board.

I read that somewhere on flightinfo so it must be true.

Diesel and SWAF/O compete for the largest CHIP they can put their shoulder>

Are you meaning to say... Diesel and SWAF/O compete for the largest chip on their shoulder? Or am i trying to put a chip on my shoulder?

Just curious.

 

[Tomct]

Well I mean NO disrespect to the FdEx group, in fact I would LOVE to work there, I am just saying that if those numbers are correct, it is a BIT rediculous!
5000 Vs 2000 hmmmmmmm! One guy has been in the 121 business for years, the other possibly flying single engine fighters! ( That would be AWESOME!)

 

[AdlerDriver]

Prop, you say 5000 is to low and yet Newfdxguy only has 2000, that is , if his profile is correct. If that is true, that is totally messed up! I support the military 110%, but that is rediculous!

Why "totally messed up" and "ridiculous"? :erm: All flight hours are not equal. If the guy has 2000 hours of fighter time, that probably represents about 10 years of flying that aircraft. 10 years in an RJ at 80-ish hours a month is 9600. Fedex knows this kind of thing. No airline has ever hired people based solely on who has the most hours.
Oh, and thanks for your support (I think).

 

[AdlerDriver]

..............One guy has been in the 121 business for years, the other possibly flying single engine fighters! ( That would be AWESOME!)

So, flying a fighter would be "awesome" BUT, in no way prepare a pilot for the demands of the "121 business".

Now who's being ridiculous (BTW - the little thing in the upper right corner with the "abc" and the √ is a spell check and will help you spell hard words like ridiculous- hopefully you used it on your Fedex app.)

 

[USNFDX]

So, flying a fighter would be "awesome" BUT, in no way prepare a pilot for the demands of the "121 business".

Now who's being ridiculous (BTW - the little thing in the upper right corner with the "abc" and the √ is a spell check and will help you spell hard words like ridiculous- hopefully you used it on your Fedex app.)

I wus wundering wher that spel chec thing wus... thancs

 

[FedEx1]

Actually, I DON'T think flying a fighter and then going to a 121 carrier is a "lateral" move, meaining the jobs are not equal. Some military guys show up behind the airline power curve. BUT.... they bring other things to the diversity table that are important. Leadership, some seem to have a phd in aerodynamics, instruction experience, etc. They have to hustle a little bit more, learn some new 121/125 stuff and procedures, but it isn't a big deal. That is why they get hired from VFR single pilot fighter to Fedex 2-3 pilot crew airline type job.

 

[AdlerDriver]

Actually, I DON'T think flying a fighter and then going to a 121 carrier is a "lateral" move, meaining the jobs are not equal. Some military guys show up behind the airline power curve. BUT.... they bring other things to the diversity table that are important. Leadership, some seem to have a phd in aerodynamics, instruction experience, etc. They have to hustle a little bit more, learn some new 121/125 stuff and procedures, but it isn't a big deal. That is why they get hired from VFR single pilot fighter to Fedex 2-3 pilot crew airline type job.

I don't think it's a lateral move either. Flying skills are most likely established and adapting to the 121 Crew environment should be fairly smooth too unless the guy is a tool. Sure, there will be an adjustment period. How long usually depends on the time it takes the guy to accept that some sh!t is just going to be different - no matter how much he says..." Well, back in the Navy/AF/F16/F18/etc, etc. we used to do it like this." and realize that no one really cares what he used to do other than to swap stories or ask about mutual acquaintances.

 

[stonewall]

Focus, people. Can we get back to the FDX rumors??

 

[capt_zman]

Just heard this one this week, considering putting newhires directly into the maddog as RFO's only with at least a 1 year seat lock. Doing all landing recurrency in the sim.

BTW, anybody want to swap their 11 training date (currently scheduled for June and looking for earlier). I'm jones'ing to fly again.

 

[MemTrash]

On the mil v civ world of aviation. I'm sure it doesn't matter in the long run everyone is trainable. There are folks who know the right people and get hired with 1001 hours and others with thousands of hours get passed over. FedEx is a wonderfuly place if you know the right folks.
Personally I was hired in 95 into the right seat of the 727 and had Jack Lewis for a week of IOE. He asked me my back ground and I told him I came from the commuter world and he said "good I don't have to worry about you" and the week went fine. He had just finished a week with a fighter guy who didn't make it through IOE. He also made me fly 250kts to the marker everywhere we went. A lot of things have changed in 10 years. The guys you see getting hired with minimum time are connected don't kid yourself. Go find you a guy with a two digit employee number and things will move fast. If you are looking for justice you won't find it a Fred's place.

 

[WorldOnTime]

Well I mean NO disrespect to the FdEx group, in fact I would LOVE to work there, I am just saying that if those numbers are correct, it is a BIT rediculous!
5000 Vs 2000 hmmmmmmm! One guy has been in the 121 business for years, the other possibly flying single engine fighters! ( That would be AWESOME!)

I was hired with 4000 hours of pure civilian time. FWIW