FEDEX meet and greet

[b757driver]

I've helped hundreds of guys and gals prepare for FedEx interviews over the last few years. Don't have percentages handy but would guess 60%/40% mil/civ. Lots of Pinnacle, ASA, and Comair guys there...along with some AWAC and Great Lakes too. Several corporate types have done well there also.

Don't let your anecdotal BS keep you from applying. PM me your name, email, and background, and I can probably send some emails of guys who have similar backgrounds who might be able to help.

Don't kid yourself!

Sorry, Albie, I disagree with you on that one and not even you could help a guy under the current rules....unless..... you know something we don't?!!

If you don't have at least one sponsor, buddy or whatever else is the flavor of the day, you ain't going to get an invite - period! It IS a closed shop.

A while back, I got talking to a Fedex Capt in MEM and he asked me to forward my resume so that the ACP could take a closer look and voice his opinion. Whilst I was flattered to have someone do this (and I did not really know him, and I certainly never flew with him in another life), I told him he would be wasting his time. Nevertheless, because of his insistence, I sent it anyway.

The result? You guessed it........it was a no go, because I did not know anyone there well enough, PURE & SIMPLE - no other reason! The Fedex Capt apologised profusely and I could just feel his embarrassment.

No sour grapes, I just like to know the TRUTH, not the rah, rah B.S. And if I can save others flogging a dead horse, I'd rather do that then go on empty promises or rhetoric. I call a spade a spade, why beat around the bush?

Z_Pilot is spot on with the REALITY as of now, not 5 years down the road.

So, unless you meet their current "criteria", your time would be much better spent concentrating on those carriers where you have a MUCH better chance than zero. Why waste your precious time and money? There are plenty of carriers out there that are willing to look at you under your own merit and know the true meaning of employment diversity.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I've got 7 guys... it's still a pain!

 

[active_herk]

In fact can you supply statistics from a reliable and unimpeachable source to repudiate the previous poster's comment?

In the absence of info to the contrary, my tendency is to believe inline's allegation. I find this issue comes up far too often with Fedex to be dismissed without merit.

Alas, I cannot repudiate the previous poster's comment, but then again I make no claims as to an actual percentage of military vs civilian new hires. I was only inquiring as to where inline got his numbers, as he seems to spew his opinion of Fedex's hiring practices as if he were issuing factual information to enlighten us all. I would imagine though, that absent actual statistics from the company, Albie's numbers are much more accurate than inline's presumptions.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Don't kid yourself!

Sorry, Albie, I disagree with you on that one and not even you could help a guy under the current rules....unless..... you know something we don't?!!

If you don't have at least one sponsor, buddy or whatever else is the flavor of the day, you ain't going to get an invite - period! It IS a closed shop.

A while back, I got talking to a Fedex Capt in MEM and he asked me to forward my resume so that the ACP could take a closer look and voice his opinion. Whilst I was flattered to have someone do this (and I did not really know him, and I certainly never flew with him in another life), I told him he would be wasting his time. Nevertheless, because of his insistence, I sent it anyway.

The result? You guessed it........it was a no go, because I did not know anyone there well enough, PURE & SIMPLE - no other reason! The Fedex Capt apologised profusely and I could just feel his embarrassment.

No sour grapes, I just like to know the TRUTH, not the rah, rah B.S. And if I can save others flogging a dead horse, I'd rather do that then go on empty promises or rhetoric. I call a spade a spade, why beat around the bush?

Z_Pilot is spot on with the REALITY as of now, not 5 years down the road.

So, unless you meet their current "criteria", your time would be much better spent concentrating on those carriers where you have a MUCH better chance than zero. Why waste your precious time and money? There are plenty of carriers out there that are willing to look at you under your own merit and know the true meaning of employment diversity.

Albie... have you ever seen anyone shoot themselves down?

It is tough.. real tough.. but that is the Free Market we live in...

Reading the Millionare Next Door, two guys in college. One was always going to parties and had a C average. The other, always studying with an A average. The guy with the C average did better professionally. When he went to parties he was sharping his people skills. Learning how to listen to people and talk to them. Meeting people and networking....

I see guys that are constantly meeting FedEx guys. They are outgoing, open and always striking up conversations... They are building ther sponser teams..... They also realize it takes time... it is a long process to get on at any carrier worth while.

Just my .02

 

[ReportCanoa]

Reading the Millionare Next Door, two guys in college. One was always going to parties and had a C average. The other, always studying with an A average. The guy with the C average did better professionally.

What kind of profession are we talking about here? Personally, when it comes time for me to have a major surgery, I'll take the gentleman with the "A" average in school, and leave the gurney pushing to the guy with the drinking and b.s.'ing skills.

It just goes to show what America represents. Mediorcity rewarded by the free market system.

Can an "a" student get a sponsor? Anyone?

 

[AlbieF15]

Summary...

Albie: "I think I can help...perhaps I know someone you don't that you flew with at Mesa/Skywest/Gulf Air/etc..."

Poster: "F--- you Albie, you cannot help me..."

Albie: "Noted."

RC--the whole A/C student thing is valid for med school or other professions, but once we get to our level in the 121 world we become "interchangable". In other words...a good 727 captain or an average 727 captain can probably get the job done. So--the guy who ultimately gets the job is the one who the company decides can best fit the mold they need. The A/C student model goes away in the military or some non-seniority based companies when you compete for upgrades, assignments, etc.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

What kind of profession are we talking about here? Personally, when it comes time for me to have a major surgery, I'll take the gentleman with the "A" average in school, and leave the gurney pushing to the guy with the drinking and b.s.'ing skills.

It just goes to show what America represents. Mediorcity rewarded by the free market system.

Can an "a" student get a sponsor? Anyone?

Mediorcity rewarded by the free market system.

Huh? I thought the free market system rewarded the best in competition. Guys that are complaining about not getting a meet and greet are looking for artificial (dare I say socialist) systems. Or they don't understand how it works....

OK.. let's go with your position....

Do you want the 'A' surgeon who has no people skills and operates like an old school capt... I am G-O-D! Or do you want a surgeon that looks over your split gut at the new hire nurse and says.. What do you think?

I am guessing that FedEx wants the total package. Like most carriers they want the guys that can get along well with others... If you are a FedEx applicant than you're probably train-able... your PRIA and training record will speak to that...

It also seems that FedEx depends on its crew members to sponsor the right guys that fit for FedEx.

It is FedEx's show... and it has always been who you know... Why is the M&G any different? Now guys that have sponsors but can't even get to the appointment book... that is a different thread..

I would imagine a guy that has multiple sponsors who speak highly of him would come across well...

Does FedEx have a repsonsibility to those who don't network or simply just can't seem to get to know anyone? Maybe that is part of thier screening process? (I don't know.. simply raising a discussion point)

Look out! here come the Purple Darts!!

 

[rdy4to]

I've helped hundreds of guys and gals prepare for FedEx interviews over the last few years. Don't have percentages handy but would guess 60%/40% mil/civ. Lots of Pinnacle, ASA, and Comair guys there...along with some AWAC and Great Lakes too. Several corporate types have done well there also.

Don't let your anecdotal BS keep you from applying. PM me your name, email, and background, and I can probably send some emails of guys who have similar backgrounds who might be able to help.

Albie is correct. All I know is what I saw. When I interviewed, of the group of 12 for the day, 50% was civilian. Of the six in my group, three were civilian and one of the military guys was both civilian/military. All six of us got hired. One guy didn't even have a sponsor, never heard of this before, but he was super qualified. Two civilian, one military are already in class.

Most of the people I know who work there are civilian. That's because that's what I am. You know who you know.

Just for perspective, in my new hire AA class, pre 9/11, about 75% of the class was military. Of the civilian guys many had military backgrounds. I interviewed with mostly military guys.

Change happens slow. It sucks when it happens so slow it may not help us, but I think things will continue to change and FedEx might become a better mix as they continue to hire more civilians. Just my two cents.

 

[Z_Pilot]

Does FedEx have a repsonsibility to those who don't network or simply just can't seem to get to know anyone? Maybe that is part of thier screening process? (I don't know.. simply raising a discussion point)

Well...it's not really the inability to network. They want your best friend (who you've flown with) to vouch for you. If you come from a certain military unit or regional airline that FedEx consistantly hires from, you're set...if you come from the outside...then good luck.

 

[ReportCanoa]

Mediorcity rewarded by the free market system.
OK.. let's go with your position....

Do you want the 'A' surgeon who has no people skills and operates like an old school capt... I am G-O-D! Or do you want a surgeon that looks over your split gut at the new hire nurse and says.. What do you think?

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