Fedex Hiring News

[Phaedrus]

That is absolutely the worst news I've heard in a long time, though none of it really surprises me.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

So, when is King Jack going to finally retire? My sources tell me that the great JL's real reason for his "no legacy" hiring policy was the fact he got shot down elsewhere before FDX hired him. Nice reasoning - glad FDX ALPA marches right along with JL's personal 'don't hire currently employed legacy pilots" policy.

Just wondering ... what would JL's current pay rate be, or that of any current FDX pilot be, without the legacy airline pilot contracts negotiated during the past 20 years? I'm sure Fred would have just paid a nice wage all along.......................

 

[1st Overnite]

From JL today...

Age 60: Sounds like it'll happen 1.5-2 years from now. The interesting point is what he said about the perceived downside. He seems convinced that B-plans will probably be outlawed, and there WILL be a penalty for retiring at 60. Some percentage hit to retire at 64, 63, etc... A quote (paraphrased) "If you're 57 and think that you'll be able to retire at 60 with no penalty, you had better think again." He said it's not a matter of if you'll be able to retire at 65, but how much of a hit you're going to take if you go early...

Was this in an e-mail or FCIF because I didn't see it? Was this just his opinion or does he know more about this from the company viewpoint? Would this require a LOA with ALPA? This sucks.

 

[Sluggo_63]

So, when is King Jack going to finally retire? My sources tell me that the great JL's real reason for his "no legacy" hiring policy was the fact he got shot down elsewhere before FDX hired him. Nice reasoning - glad FDX ALPA marches right along with JL's personal 'don't hire currently employed legacy pilots" policy.

Just wondering ... what would JL's current pay rate be, or that of any current FDX pilot be, without the legacy airline pilot contracts negotiated during the past 20 years? I'm sure Fred would have just paid a nice wage all along.......................

He turned 60 today. He was an Eastern guy before he came to FedEx. I don't think there's any malice towards the legacy guys other than some unwritten agreement not to "hose" the legacies by draining them of all their current and qualified pilots. Besides, there are current legacy pilots being hired... albeit in small numbers, but some have cracked the code.

And seeing how our recent contract did not follow the current trend in airline contracts, I know we don't negotiate in a vacuum, but I think we are somewhat insulated from what goes on in the passenger world.

 

[Sluggo_63]

Was this in an e-mail or FCIF because I didn't see it? Was this just his opinion or does he know more about this from the company viewpoint? Would this require a LOA with ALPA? This sucks.

He came to the 727 LCA/Flex meeting today. This was mostly his educated opinion, with probably some fact based guesswork.

 

[PastV1]

So, when is King Jack going to finally retire? My sources tell me that the great JL's real reason for his "no legacy" hiring policy was the fact he got shot down elsewhere before FDX hired him. Nice reasoning - glad FDX ALPA marches right along with JL's personal 'don't hire currently employed legacy pilots" policy.

Just wondering ... what would JL's current pay rate be, or that of any current FDX pilot be, without the legacy airline pilot contracts negotiated during the past 20 years? I'm sure Fred would have just paid a nice wage all along.......................

Bent over,

You get shot down at FedEx or just pissed your at a legacy or are you furloughed?

Don't give me "I owe you for my job" crap. And for the matter, FDX ALPA does not set hiring practices. You've got your legacy brethren that came here while they were furloughed in the early 90's and then went back to the legacy when things picked up there in the mid to late 90's.

Several former legacy guys are new hire MD11 F/O's.

By the way, in the class that started monday, 1 Delta, 1 NWA. Guess you just don't make the cut there bent....


Past...


FoxHunter.... let bentover know what the Tiger rates were back in the day compared to the legacy lines... and all for flying freight..

 

[Huck]

Nice reasoning - glad FDX ALPA marches right along with JL's personal 'don't hire currently employed legacy pilots" policy.

You want somebody to whine to- look around your company and find the guys that SWORE they resigned their seniority to go to FDX, only to go back to your bunch when their furlough was over.

 

[JAM-BRO]

I don't think there's any malice towards the legacy guys other than some unwritten agreement not to "hose" the legacies by draining them of all their current and qualified pilots. Besides, there are current legacy pilots being hired... albeit in small numbers, but some have cracked the code.

Sorry Sluggo but you don't seem to make sense here.

First, it would take a lot of hiring at FedEx to 'HOSE' the legacies of all their pilots. The legacies have about 36,000 active pilots all together. Even if you maxed out hiring how many do you think that would be? 600-700/yr. That's less than 2% of the total pilots at the legacies.

Second, why wouldn't you want the most qualified applicants working for you. Why settle for anything less just to abide by some supposed "unwritten, secret-handshake, hoseless agreement".

Third, furloughed pilots will say and do anything for a job. They are job-less. On the other hand, an active pilot with a job is willing to give that up to go work for you. To me it shows more commitment.

Lastly, return the favor for the "hosing" you got in the '90s. Hire the active guys.

 

[Sluggo_63]

Sorry Sluggo but you don't seem to make sense here.

First, it would take a lot of hiring at FedEx to 'HOSE' the legacies of all their pilots. The legacies have about 36,000 active pilots all together. Even if you maxed out hiring how many do you think that would be? 600-700/yr. That's less than 2% of the total pilots at the legacies.

Second, why wouldn't you want the most qualified applicants working for you. Why settle for anything less just to abide by some supposed "unwritten, secret-handshake, hoseless agreement".

Third, furloughed pilots will say and do anything for a job. They are job-less. On the other hand, an active pilot with a job is willing to give that up to go work for you. To me it shows more commitment.

Lastly, return the favor for the "hosing" you got in the '90s. Hire the active guys.

I hardly ever make sense. I didn't say that this was out of the FedEx HR manual, it was just a theory. Besides, I just gave IOE to a guy who was a current UAL pilot. He had cracked the code... he's on property. So it's not some great conspiracy, he and his sponsor were able to convince the higher ups that he would be an invaluable asset to FedEx.

 

[AlbieF15]

Fedex is the high school fat chick who showed up at the 10 year reunion as a supermodel. Everyone loves us now...

Jack (and others) remember being ignored in history class for that pretty Delta girl and that sexy United cheerleader. She can be a mean bitch...

However--with enough love and "I'm sorry--I always loved your eyes..." you still have a chance with her. Its a tough road, however, and you are definately swimming upstream.

And no...I don't think all of this rests on JL.