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mar said:I'll sum it up like this: I don't begrudge military pilots *anything*. It's hard work, it takes skill, and good for them.
But some of the guys I've been working with just don't see the flip side to that coin.
mar said:<breaks out my flag and starts waving it around>
Awesome post!
Is all that true? I had no idea!!!
You're right! Airline hiring is about *so* much more than just flying airplanes from Point A to Point B.
I feel like such a loser for having been continually employed for the last 15 years and being a taxpayer. I could've been so much more.
I am an Army of just one.
mar said:See?
It's this lack of perspective that bothers me.
And contrary to what Satpak77 thinks, this isn't your "typical" military vs. civilian thread.
I'm not suggesting that one is better than the other.
And contrary to what Mr. AdlerDriver thinks, I do, in fact, *appreciate* very much what it takes become a military pilot.
I'm sorry that I couldn't conjure a more compelling example for you. It was really a composite as I was trying to be brief and didn't want to bore you with a description of every flight deck conversation I've had.
This thread really has less to do with how I'm regarded at work than how you (in the general sense) would be naive to deny that a bias exists.
There *is* a bias. And I think the bias exists because military pilots tend to stick together. And that's not a criticism. But if you're fresh out of the military and you've had one civilian job, then, you know, where's your perspective? Where's your point of reference? Where's your measuring stick?
That's all I was trying to say.
By the way, when you check in with tower, do you still report "wheels down"?
AdlerDriver said:That said, I don’t really know what it’s like to fly 16 legs in a day across the northern Midwest like my crashpad roommate used to do. Do I “appreciate” it? Who knows. I know it sound like it would be a b!tch – but I really don’t know squat about it.
airmasn said:Anyone talk to the FedEx recruiter last weekend in Atlanta at the Air, Inc. conference? Just wondering if anything good would have come of attending?
mar said:"Who knows?"
*You* know. You know whether or not it means anything to you.
But this discussion is gonna end up like the old cliche': If I have to explain it then you wouldn't understand.
In other words, if you can't discern the bias all by yourself, especially after four pages of this thread then you're really quite oblivious to it.
As for your perspective, let me put it like this: Throughout this thread I've tried to be diplomatic--even empathetic.
I think diplomacy comes with perspective (and maybe experience). If I need to explain to you how perspective is important in evaluating our relationships with others (specifically, in this case, our co-workers) then what's the point of continuing the discussion?