FedEx Anc Move LOA

[Deuce130]

Bottom line is this, the company wanted something. So they engaged the MEC in negotiations and we negotiated a reasonable deal. This is the kind of thing that we want to happen. We need to support this deal 100% because the NC successfully negotiated it and the MEC recommends it. It will become part of the new contract.

We want the company to get the message loud and clear that the Negotiating Committee "Speaks for Me" and we want them to handle negotiations and we will engage good faith negotiations and not "direct dealing"....send the message that the way to negotiate with us is thru the negotiating committee......if you voted no there is still time to change your vote.

Rejecting a legitimately brokered deal that the NC was able to negotiate and the MEC endorses ....but then saying "My Negotiating Committee speaks for me" is the equivalent of Bashing the way "Americans are murdering innocent Iraqis....then cowardly saying "But I support our troops".

If the Negotiating Committee speaks for you.....then this should be a no brainer. If you send the message that you won't accept the deals that they negotiate, then you are asking for cherry picking and "direct dealing". Furthermore, the sticking point in our negotiations is our core goals......and this wasn't one of them.....This one is a bonus.

--Out

Well put. I'll vote yes.

 

[Laughing_Jakal]

bumpety bump bump

 

[MsFan]

When does the voting end, when will the results be announced? Impact on new hire training dates, anyone?

Thanks.

 

[fartknocker]

When does the voting end, when will the results be announced? Impact on new hire training dates, anyone?

Thanks.

Good questions. Anybody know??

 

[CaptainMark]

All eligible members should have received balloting instructions for the ANC move LOA last week via e-mail and regular mail. Balloting, which is being conducted by phone and the Internet, will close at 10 a.m. EDT on Tuesday, April 18. Specific balloting instructions as well as the full text of the LOA and a Chairman’s message about the LOA have been posted to the MEC website



from an e-mail....don't know when the results will be posted..the e-mail goes on to say don't vote NO...it is a win for the pilots...how is the water in the pool?

 

[PurpleChimp]

.......how is the water in the pool?

Howdy skipper. It would be a lot mo betta if there were a little intel on the street regarding what to expect but it's eerily quiet.........

 

[fartknocker]

how is the water in the pool?

It's starting to get lukewarm. It still feels pretty darn good to be swimming around in it though!! We need some good rumours to warm it up again!!

 

[CaptainMark]

latest news on the dvd i just watched is that we are hiring 700-900 pilots in the next few years to handle the 60 widebodies that are coming...electronic flight bag also coming as well as the A380...still waiting on the contract though..it will happen! nobody pee in the pool now!

 

[New FDX Guy]

It would be a lot mo betta if there were a little intel on the street .........

Intel? Never, but I'll do some math...in public, no less.

LOA voting ends April 18th, expect it to pass. Then give the company 5 days to do their math, in private, to figure out where the vacancies need to be. Bid released April 23rd. Open for two weeks...Bid closes May 7. The company will almost instantly know where the new hires will need to go. Classes start two weeks later...Monday, May 22nd.

A more optimistic plan...The company already knows where the vacancies are going, so it releases the bid before the LOA voting is finished, but it closes after. This still allows us to bid knowing if the LOA is approved. Perhaps it closes as early as the 26th(I think that's two weeks from tomorrow). Classes could start as soon as May 8th.

I don't think they'll start classes before the bid closes, since they really don't know where they'll need the new-hires until then. These plans also include two week's notice to start class. Perhaps they would give as little as one, I don't know.

Thoughts, corrections, smart remarks?

 

[PurpleChimp]

Intel? Never, but I'll do some math...in public, no less.

LOA voting ends April 18th, expect it to pass. Then give the company 5 days to do their math, in private, to figure out where the vacancies need to be. Bid released April 23rd. Open for two weeks...Bid closes May 7. The company will almost instantly know where the new hires will need to go. Classes start two weeks later...Monday, May 22nd.

A more optimistic plan...The company already knows where the vacancies are going, so it releases the bid before the LOA voting is finished, but it closes after. This still allows us to bid knowing if the LOA is approved. Perhaps it closes as early as the 26th(I think that's two weeks from tomorrow). Classes could start as soon as May 8th.

I don't think they'll start classes before the bid closes, since they really don't know where they'll need the new-hires until then. These plans also include two week's notice to start class. Perhaps they would give as little as one, I don't know.

Thoughts, corrections, smart remarks?

Math in public is always a courageous thing. Bid will only be out for 2 weeks vice a month? Is that standard?

 

[PurpleChimp]

Deleted

 

[New FDX Guy]

No, it's not out. WOT was just being a jacka$$ with his other post. Perhaps the DG can is shrinking his brain.
This mini bid was out for only two weeks. I think it can be that short as long as there aren't Subic spots...any old guys confirm that.

Ponder this too. If the LOA entices enough people to go to ANC, then new hires would mostly go to the back of the 72 and the pool would most-likely be FIFO. If not, then the only guys seeing the early training dates would probably be folks with international, glass and 'larger' airplane experience.

 

[CaptainMark]

If the LOA entices enough people to go to ANC

don't think you will have to worry about that one!!!

 

[PurpleChimp]

I'll go anywhere at anytime to any seat......just gimme a line # !

 

[WorldOnTime]

No, it's not out. WOT was just being a jacka$$ with his other post. Perhaps the DG can is shrinking his brain.
This mini bid was out for only two weeks. I think it can be that short as long as there aren't Subic spots...any old guys confirm that.

Easy, easy, easy!! It was in jest, but I apologize to the poolies...I am sure they are stressing enough without my stupid jokes. I am sure in a year, they will look back and LAUGH! Or not, maybe they will try to punch me in the face. Yeah, probably option 2.

The bid is contractually out for two weeks unless it includes foreign duty assignments, then it has to be out for a month. How's that, and I am not even an "old guy"!