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Congrats on getting the interview
When I interviewed quite a while ago, I used the AIR INC telephone interview prep (even though I wasn't a member at the time), and found it to be quite helpful. The good news is, if they have called you for an interview, they want you, so the odds are already on your side. Good luck!
When I interviewed quite a while ago, I used the AIR INC telephone interview prep (even though I wasn't a member at the time), and found it to be quite helpful. The good news is, if they have called you for an interview, they want you, so the odds are already on your side. Good luck!
I used both Air Inc and Cage Consultings telephone interview services and found the Cage product to be far superior.
Used Air Inc prior to a SWA interview and was setup to recieve a call the following morning from their SWA "expert". 45 minutes after they were supposed to call the phone rings with someone apologizing about how the "expert" was stuck in traffic and that they would hook me up with "someone". This guy gets on the phone and admits not knowing anything about SWA and that we would do a generic interview prep. Should have asked for my money back at that point.
Used Cage's prep prior to my UPS interview last year and was very satisfied with their offering. I spent over 2 hours on the phone with a woman who was retired from some majors HR dept
(don't recall which one). Very helpful and knew her stuff.
Needless to say , I now wear brown. Good luck
Used Air Inc prior to a SWA interview and was setup to recieve a call the following morning from their SWA "expert". 45 minutes after they were supposed to call the phone rings with someone apologizing about how the "expert" was stuck in traffic and that they would hook me up with "someone". This guy gets on the phone and admits not knowing anything about SWA and that we would do a generic interview prep. Should have asked for my money back at that point.
Used Cage's prep prior to my UPS interview last year and was very satisfied with their offering. I spent over 2 hours on the phone with a woman who was retired from some majors HR dept
(don't recall which one). Very helpful and knew her stuff.
Needless to say , I now wear brown. Good luck
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When I called for info on JetBlue, I had a young female ASA pilot answer that knew not a thing about the company (she actually asked me for gouge). Confusion/buffonery as mentioned in previous post. I did NOT do an air inc prep after that experience.
I completely scoff Air Inc interview prep. Go to the company experts....
Beeks for SWA is highly recommended.
Albie
I completely scoff Air Inc interview prep. Go to the company experts....
Beeks for SWA is highly recommended.
Albie
Ditto the above two posts. I called Air Inc prior to my FedEx interview for their general info to see if I wanted to do a phone prep. Turned out that I'd gleaned more and better info from this board, WFFF, etc, then what they had -- their "expert counselor" didn't give me a thing I already didn't know -- we spent half of our time with ME answering HIS questions about jetblue. Made me feel like I should have been getting paid.
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interview prep
First off, congratulations.
If you look back at previous posts, you should find quite a bit of info on this subject.
In short, there is really not a lot of prep to do. The tests are a bugger, but there is no way you can study enough to significantly change your score.
The sim is normally the A-300. Some guys pay for sim prep, I did not and did fine. If you have heavy experience, you should do fine.
The rest is looking inward. Go through your log book and write down some memorable moments. When you are asked questions from the captains during the interview, you will have fresh stories to draw upon.
That is about it. No smoke-n-mirrors. Straight forward.
Good luck.
Goose17; Fed Ex 727 Second Officer
First off, congratulations.
If you look back at previous posts, you should find quite a bit of info on this subject.
In short, there is really not a lot of prep to do. The tests are a bugger, but there is no way you can study enough to significantly change your score.
The sim is normally the A-300. Some guys pay for sim prep, I did not and did fine. If you have heavy experience, you should do fine.
The rest is looking inward. Go through your log book and write down some memorable moments. When you are asked questions from the captains during the interview, you will have fresh stories to draw upon.
That is about it. No smoke-n-mirrors. Straight forward.
Good luck.
Goose17; Fed Ex 727 Second Officer
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House, are you Active Duty AF?
House,
Just trying to confirm or stop a rumor that FedEx has stopped called Active Duty USAF pilots for interviews.
This is from a FedEx pilot that placed a rec for me:
{I also heard (from a Capt who got the info directly from the HR chief), FedEx will not interview military pilots unless they have a DD214 proving they are no longer on active duty.}
Best wishes to you at the interview!
House,
Just trying to confirm or stop a rumor that FedEx has stopped called Active Duty USAF pilots for interviews.
This is from a FedEx pilot that placed a rec for me:
{I also heard (from a Capt who got the info directly from the HR chief), FedEx will not interview military pilots unless they have a DD214 proving they are no longer on active duty.}
Best wishes to you at the interview!
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For what it's worth
Active duty pilot here at Altus got called 3 days ago for an interview, projected DOS of November pending Stop Loss. No waiver in hand (or even submitted yet), no separation orders, no nothing. Question was asked about separation date, but did not seem to be a factor (at least, not yet). Interview is approximately 3 weeks away.
Peace,
DP
Active duty pilot here at Altus got called 3 days ago for an interview, projected DOS of November pending Stop Loss. No waiver in hand (or even submitted yet), no separation orders, no nothing. Question was asked about separation date, but did not seem to be a factor (at least, not yet). Interview is approximately 3 weeks away.
Peace,
DP
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Time-out.
Mr. Aviation,
Nothing in any of the posts I've read show any malice towards non-military folks, or that you can't or will not be called in for an interview if you're not military. I was simply trying to confirm or crush a rumor that Active Duty military pilots affected by stop loss would not be called by FedEx for interviews. The fact remains (in aviation and in other career fields) knowing someone who can and more importantly will go in to their superiors to give a recommendation for you, can't hurt.
When Kudwa took over at American, he said "No Mas" to this. Oh well.
I have heard from many on the inside at FedEx and other companies, the most major airlines like variety of backgrounds in their pilots to include miliatry and civilians.
Rather than slam the policy of using connections, try using it for your benefit. With all the time you have, surely you have one FedEx pilot who will make a strong recommendation on your behalf. Nothing says that only military pilots can use your version "of the Military good ole boys network"
When I was working for the largest computer company in the world in the early 90s, I made recommendations to my supervisors on behalf of an individual who had recently applied. Guess what? He got the job! T
The sky isn't carolina blue, if you don't think your past will catch up with you. Whether your a military or a civilian pilot, if other pilots find you difficulty to work with (ie.,you lack people skills) or have shown poor judgement on a repeated basis, good luck, cause you're gonna need it.
Cheers!
Mr. Aviation,
Nothing in any of the posts I've read show any malice towards non-military folks, or that you can't or will not be called in for an interview if you're not military. I was simply trying to confirm or crush a rumor that Active Duty military pilots affected by stop loss would not be called by FedEx for interviews. The fact remains (in aviation and in other career fields) knowing someone who can and more importantly will go in to their superiors to give a recommendation for you, can't hurt.
When Kudwa took over at American, he said "No Mas" to this. Oh well.
I have heard from many on the inside at FedEx and other companies, the most major airlines like variety of backgrounds in their pilots to include miliatry and civilians.
Rather than slam the policy of using connections, try using it for your benefit. With all the time you have, surely you have one FedEx pilot who will make a strong recommendation on your behalf. Nothing says that only military pilots can use your version "of the Military good ole boys network"
When I was working for the largest computer company in the world in the early 90s, I made recommendations to my supervisors on behalf of an individual who had recently applied. Guess what? He got the job! T
The sky isn't carolina blue, if you don't think your past will catch up with you. Whether your a military or a civilian pilot, if other pilots find you difficulty to work with (ie.,you lack people skills) or have shown poor judgement on a repeated basis, good luck, cause you're gonna need it.
Cheers!
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Re: Fedex and stop-loss
Don't know for sure, but I'll ask. As far as I know, the only "bigwig" known was met at an Air Inc convention, with some follow-up emails to "refresh the memory," so to speak. Honestly don't know if that's what made the difference, but I doubt it.
Peace,
DP
Jake said:
Don't know for sure, but I'll ask. As far as I know, the only "bigwig" known was met at an Air Inc convention, with some follow-up emails to "refresh the memory," so to speak. Honestly don't know if that's what made the difference, but I doubt it.
Peace,
DP
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Re: Time-out.
Actually, I believe the recommendation system tends to disadvantage someone with many years and "all that time". Let's say you've been flying for USAir for 12 years and decide it's time to get out and you want to go work for FedEx. How likely is it that someone at FedEx as seen you fly "for an extended period of time", any time within the past decade? At best you may know someone who vaugely remembers you and may have flown with you, but all that was over 12 years ago.
Otoh, if you are talking about someone fresh from the commuters or military, chances are he's tuned into a network of pilots who he's just flown with who are FedEX new hires.
This is the system they use, so we have to deal with it and move on, but I think you could make a case that this borders on age discrimination, although I'm certainly not going to be the one to hire a lawyer and test it. I'd rather spend my time trying to line up that LOR!
Yahtzee said:
Actually, I believe the recommendation system tends to disadvantage someone with many years and "all that time". Let's say you've been flying for USAir for 12 years and decide it's time to get out and you want to go work for FedEx. How likely is it that someone at FedEx as seen you fly "for an extended period of time", any time within the past decade? At best you may know someone who vaugely remembers you and may have flown with you, but all that was over 12 years ago.
Otoh, if you are talking about someone fresh from the commuters or military, chances are he's tuned into a network of pilots who he's just flown with who are FedEX new hires.
This is the system they use, so we have to deal with it and move on, but I think you could make a case that this borders on age discrimination, although I'm certainly not going to be the one to hire a lawyer and test it. I'd rather spend my time trying to line up that LOR!
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Mr. Aviation,
Check your ego and obvious FedEx envy at the door. The recommendation system works exactly the same way for civilian or military. There's no box on the rec. form to check whether I'm mil or civ, all company pilots carry the same weight. I don't know the exact percentage of military vs. civilian here, but I've flown with a buttload of civilians, and no, not all ex-tiger guys, plenty of young guys. I'll fly with civilians one day, military the next. In my interview class of 4 military and 2 civilian, both civilians got hired, 2 military did not.
All of us, both military and civilian, got here because we had the required qualifications, a recommendation from a company pilot who thought we were a competent professional, then we proved ourselves at the interview.
Oh yeah, let's jump on the affirmative action bandwagon too...
Get over it.
Check your ego and obvious FedEx envy at the door. The recommendation system works exactly the same way for civilian or military. There's no box on the rec. form to check whether I'm mil or civ, all company pilots carry the same weight. I don't know the exact percentage of military vs. civilian here, but I've flown with a buttload of civilians, and no, not all ex-tiger guys, plenty of young guys. I'll fly with civilians one day, military the next. In my interview class of 4 military and 2 civilian, both civilians got hired, 2 military did not.
All of us, both military and civilian, got here because we had the required qualifications, a recommendation from a company pilot who thought we were a competent professional, then we proved ourselves at the interview.
Oh yeah, let's jump on the affirmative action bandwagon too...
Get over it.
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Mr. Aviation isn't going to get a job with any airline..whether their hiring board is predominately civilian or military...and regardless if he does manage to get some letters of recommendation (doubtful). Check his posts. They reveal much about his attitude. I don't think anyone would touch him with a ten-foot pole.
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Positive Note
To all the other civilian pilots reading these posts, good on you for not swallowing the poison Mr. Aviation is spewing from his veins. If he spent a tenth of the time cultivating relationships rather than leaving his bitterness on this forum, he may have hope.
On a more positive note: (it has nothing to do with FedEx but Mr. Aviation may learn something about helping others by reading it.)
I was recently at the Sun-N-Fun Airshow in Lakeland, FL where I met a civilian US Airways Capt as I was standing in front of our USAF jet. The Capt inquired about becoming a military pilot, and I explained the various ways you could be become a pilot in the USAF. The Capt then told me about a 24 year old young man and friend of his family who would like to become a military pilot. I told him of a USAF Reserve Unit where I thought the young man would make a good fit, and the Capt gave me a business card as we exchanged information. We spoke about US Airways, his background and life in general. We said goodbye and I told him to have the young man call or e-mail me.
About two days later, the young man e-mailed me with questions and his phone number. I called the young man and chatted with him for about 20 minutes. It turns out we had similar backgrounds. He works for a Fortune 500 company as a Mech. Eng. I too had worked for a large corporation in a non-flying capacity and wanted to fly as a 24 year old. I simply conducted a phone interview of this young man, and believed him worthy of my time and my dollar (20 min at .05 per min on my calling card).
Five minutes later I called a USAF Reserve unit near the young man, and although my friends were deployed to any undisclosed location, the mere mention of their names gave me instant credibility with the Lt Col (a senior pilot at the unit) who I spoke with. I explained I had nothing to gain by helping this young man other than being a Good Samaritan, and hoped to find a good future pilot for their unit. The Lt Col took the information. I few days later young man called me to tell me he had an interview with the unit.
I'm still in touch with the young man, the US Airways Capt, and the Lt Col at the Unit. The young man is in the door now, and I hope to teach him in the T-1 in the near future. The military and civilian pilot ranks are both filled with their ups and downs, good people and not so good people. I hope we are all in search of something more than just a good paying job with a lot of time off. I personally hope and expect to have fun at work. When it stops being fun, I hope I’m wise enough to move on.
In the meantime, I will keep going to air shows, recruiting for the USAF, the Guard, and the Reserves (and yes educating the general public about your USAF!)
Hope to see you on the line! (Mr. Aviation excluded of course.)
P.S. I’m sure if anyone can find a negative side to this story, it’s him.
To all the other civilian pilots reading these posts, good on you for not swallowing the poison Mr. Aviation is spewing from his veins. If he spent a tenth of the time cultivating relationships rather than leaving his bitterness on this forum, he may have hope.
On a more positive note: (it has nothing to do with FedEx but Mr. Aviation may learn something about helping others by reading it.)
I was recently at the Sun-N-Fun Airshow in Lakeland, FL where I met a civilian US Airways Capt as I was standing in front of our USAF jet. The Capt inquired about becoming a military pilot, and I explained the various ways you could be become a pilot in the USAF. The Capt then told me about a 24 year old young man and friend of his family who would like to become a military pilot. I told him of a USAF Reserve Unit where I thought the young man would make a good fit, and the Capt gave me a business card as we exchanged information. We spoke about US Airways, his background and life in general. We said goodbye and I told him to have the young man call or e-mail me.
About two days later, the young man e-mailed me with questions and his phone number. I called the young man and chatted with him for about 20 minutes. It turns out we had similar backgrounds. He works for a Fortune 500 company as a Mech. Eng. I too had worked for a large corporation in a non-flying capacity and wanted to fly as a 24 year old. I simply conducted a phone interview of this young man, and believed him worthy of my time and my dollar (20 min at .05 per min on my calling card).
Five minutes later I called a USAF Reserve unit near the young man, and although my friends were deployed to any undisclosed location, the mere mention of their names gave me instant credibility with the Lt Col (a senior pilot at the unit) who I spoke with. I explained I had nothing to gain by helping this young man other than being a Good Samaritan, and hoped to find a good future pilot for their unit. The Lt Col took the information. I few days later young man called me to tell me he had an interview with the unit.
I'm still in touch with the young man, the US Airways Capt, and the Lt Col at the Unit. The young man is in the door now, and I hope to teach him in the T-1 in the near future. The military and civilian pilot ranks are both filled with their ups and downs, good people and not so good people. I hope we are all in search of something more than just a good paying job with a lot of time off. I personally hope and expect to have fun at work. When it stops being fun, I hope I’m wise enough to move on.
In the meantime, I will keep going to air shows, recruiting for the USAF, the Guard, and the Reserves (and yes educating the general public about your USAF!)
Hope to see you on the line! (Mr. Aviation excluded of course.)
P.S. I’m sure if anyone can find a negative side to this story, it’s him.
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Fangs not veins...
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Originally posted by Yahtzee
To all the other civilian pilots reading these posts, good on you for not swallowing the poison Mr. Aviation is spewing from his veins.
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See what a Georgia education can do for you? I meant to write "fangs" not "veins" rolleyes:
Roll the Dice and hope for a "Big"
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Originally posted by Yahtzee
To all the other civilian pilots reading these posts, good on you for not swallowing the poison Mr. Aviation is spewing from his veins.
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See what a Georgia education can do for you? I meant to write "fangs" not "veins" rolleyes:
Roll the Dice and hope for a "Big"
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Boys - just got hired, 5600 all-civilian hours, 2 reccy's from all civilian pilots, one was a commuter guy I flew ATR's with and one was a corporate pilot at a company I used to free-lance in King Aires with. Strong military presence there, but plenty of room for the rest of us!
Flew the Pan Am sim just to make sure I could still do steam gauges. Got the rest of my prep from this site and the fine guys here that sent me stuff. Also WFFF and the FDX website.
Thanks to all the dudes here - I've been lurking the fedex threads for months. Good luck to everybody! Beer light's on!
Flew the Pan Am sim just to make sure I could still do steam gauges. Got the rest of my prep from this site and the fine guys here that sent me stuff. Also WFFF and the FDX website.
Thanks to all the dudes here - I've been lurking the fedex threads for months. Good luck to everybody! Beer light's on!
Congrats on the Hire!
I just did the whole interview in April. I didn't have any recomendations from anyone and they called me. They are a very professional group of people. The gouge is easy to obtain from anyone/anywhere and it hasn't changed much. You are selected , supposedly, by a cumulative score on all aspects of the interview. Sim ride, SBI, interviews and psych tests.
Good luck . After flying the SIM profile to near perfection I thought I had a good chance but was rejected.
It was interesting to notice that one of the candidates in my interview class seemingly knew almost everyone who came walking around a corner in the training center. He was from the NAVY.
You make the call !!!!!
I just did the whole interview in April. I didn't have any recomendations from anyone and they called me. They are a very professional group of people. The gouge is easy to obtain from anyone/anywhere and it hasn't changed much. You are selected , supposedly, by a cumulative score on all aspects of the interview. Sim ride, SBI, interviews and psych tests.
Good luck . After flying the SIM profile to near perfection I thought I had a good chance but was rejected.
It was interesting to notice that one of the candidates in my interview class seemingly knew almost everyone who came walking around a corner in the training center. He was from the NAVY.
You make the call !!!!!
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