FAM's and the Jumpseat

[Shocker]

So I just heard on my last trip that FAM's are trying to push this new deal through that would give them priority over jumpseating pilots for the j.s. Anyone else heard anything of this and if so, what is being done to prevent it?

 

[regionalhell]

Not on my watch

No FAM will EVER ride on my Jumpseat! End of story.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Amen brotha..... no fam will be on mine either.
oops that jumpseat is broken.
Omg there isn't enough O2.
Sucks to be them!!!!

 

[spudskier]

What's the point of a FAM riding jump seat!?!?!? Doesn't that kind of nullify the purpose of their job. Didn't think they could do their job if there were squeezed into the most comfy seat in the house!?

P.S. as a commuter I will personally raise all holy he!!

 

[Metro752]

This is retarded, crappy rumor..

 

[Kaman]

Captain controls access to the cockpit and jumpseating is a privelege not a right unless it is in direct performance of duty. End of story.

 

[viper548]

Not gonna happen on my plane

 

[viper548]

So I just heard on my last trip that FAM's are trying to push this new deal through that would give them priority over jumpseating pilots for the j.s. Anyone else heard anything of this and if so, what is being done to prevent it?

I think they're trying to do this in order to "line check" FFDO's. If neither crewmember is an FFDO, they would have no reason to be up front. If this happens the FFDO program will go downhill fast

 

[Metro752]

I think they're trying to do this in order to "line check" FFDO's. If neither crewmember is an FFDO, they would have no reason to be up front. If this happens the FFDO program will go downhill fast

I swear to God you are mentally challenged. Line check FFDOs? What's next, line checking passengers? Why don't we line check you in the mouth with a giant rubber dog turd.

 

[viper548]

I swear to God you are mentally challenged. Line check FFDOs? What's next, line checking passengers? Why don't we line check you in the mouth with a giant rubber dog turd.

Here's a link. The FAMS want to make sure the proper procedures are being followed since the US Airways incident

http://www.flyingmag.com/article.asp?section_id=12&article_id=696&page_number=3http://www.flyingmag.com/article.asp?section_id=12&article_id=696&page_number=3

 

[bmpilot2003]

I swear to God you are mentally challenged. Line check FFDOs? What's next, line checking passengers? Why don't we line check you in the mouth with a giant rubber dog turd.

metrosexual with another great post. You really are a dumb@ss!

 

[Say Again Over]

You have to admit, it was funny!

 

[ohplease!]

any and all FAMs would be welcome on my jumpseat any day for any reason. You think they have such a wonderful and easy job, apply for it and see if you can get through their training course.

you frickin' morons.

 

[regionalcap]

any and all FAMs would be welcome on my jumpseat any day for any reason. You think they have such a wonderful and easy job, apply for it and see if you can get through their training course.

you frickin' morons.

should they get priority though?

 

[crxpilot]

any and all FAMs would be welcome on my jumpseat any day for any reason. You think they have such a wonderful and easy job, apply for it and see if you can get through their training course.

you frickin' morons.

apparently its a joke:

Ex-marshal: Air marshal training 'a national disgrace'

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/16/griffin.marshal.training/

 

[viper548]

any and all FAMs would be welcome on my jumpseat any day for any reason. You think they have such a wonderful and easy job, apply for it and see if you can get through their training course.

you frickin' morons.

Just wait until you try to go to work around the holidays and these guys use their priority to bump you out of the jumpseat

 

[n757st]

I would not mind them in the jumpseat, nor would I mind FA's in the jumpseat... so long as they all understand that ANY pilot from ANY airline has priority in the seat.

 

[radarlove]

On a related note, the TSA, right after spending their first year's budget in six months (made for a bigger budget the next year!) wanted the jumpseat for TSA execs.

It all went away fairly quickly, but this isn't the first time the TSA has eyed the jumpseat with lust.

This was a proposal that happened at the same time that the one that let TSA execs bypass security. I never heard the outcome from that one, I assume they got what they wanted.

 

[rickair7777]

I would not mind them in the jumpseat, nor would I mind FA's in the jumpseat... so long as they all understand that ANY pilot from ANY airline has priority in the seat.

That's the real problem...once you let them in the jumpseat, they will start angling for priority. The ONLY way to retain control of the JS is to exclude all non-pilots who are not mission-essential (feds, mechanics on a test flight, etc).

Look at the FAA inspectors...they have a business reason to be in the JS, but they have twisted that into having top priority for their own personal travel, any time, any where. This is a serious abuse of government authority...no airline employee should get bumped off of his own airplane because some fed wants to go to LAS or SAN for weekend. Ideally, FAA inspectors should have their official jumpseat rides scheduled by their boss in accordance with some sort of sensible inspection plan. If they're not on a scheduled inspection, they can buy a ticket like the rest of the general public.

If you let FA's on, within a year they will demand (and get) priority over off-line pilots...screw that.

 

[flyjumpseat]

The ONLY way to retain control of the JS is to exclude all non-pilots

From all of us Dispatchers, Thanks a bunch for your support.