F9 FO's Wives Organize Lynch of FAPA

Bally

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Picture the dinner table at the typical F9 FO house. Hubby had an excellent chance to join the most profitable and stable airline in aviation history. He may have even tired to get an interview at WN but didn’t get called or did interview but didn’t get hired. Now my hubby is virtually guaranteed an invitation to join WN and he dosnt even need to get a Type Rating. Incredible benefits, best management team in the industry, highest pay in the industry, and overall cool company. But because of the geniuses at FAPA the opportunity was pissed away. Oh happy day. Dear, please pass the potatoes. I need to find my toarch before my visit to FAPA.
 

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Picture the dinner table at the typical F9 FO house. Hubby had an excellent chance to join the most profitable and stable airline in aviation history. He may have even tired to get an interview at WN but didn’t get called or did interview but didn’t get hired. Now my hubby is virtually guaranteed an invitation to join WN and he dosnt even need to get a Type Rating. Incredible benefits, best management team in the industry, highest pay in the industry, and overall cool company. But because of the geniuses at FAPA the opportunity was pissed away. Oh happy day. Dear, please pass the potatoes. I need to find my toarch before my visit to FAPA.
You're making a big assumption that your hubby would have had a job. You can have a 1000/hour pay rate but it doesn't mean anything if you're on the street.
 

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Picture the dinner table at the typical F9 FO house. Hubby had an excellent chance to join the most profitable and stable airline in aviation history. He may have even tired to get an interview at WN but didn’t get called or did interview but didn’t get hired. Now my hubby is virtually guaranteed an invitation to join WN and he dosnt even need to get a Type Rating. Incredible benefits, best management team in the industry, highest pay in the industry, and overall cool company. But because of the geniuses at FAPA the opportunity was pissed away. Oh happy day. Dear, please pass the potatoes. I need to find my toarch before my visit to FAPA.
Reading your post was worse than watching Fox News.
 

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Picture the dinner table at the typical F9 FO house. Hubby had an excellent chance to join the most profitable and stable airline in aviation history. He may have even tired to get an interview at WN but didn’t get called or did interview but didn’t get hired. Now my hubby is virtually guaranteed an invitation to join WN and he dosnt even need to get a Type Rating. Incredible benefits, best management team in the industry, highest pay in the industry, and overall cool company. But because of the geniuses at FAPA the opportunity was pissed away. Oh happy day. Dear, please pass the potatoes. I need to find my toarch before my visit to FAPA.
Because of the geniuses at SWAPA it was pissed away, don't fool yourself! How would the SWA deal have helped me. From day one i would have been on the street...try telling that to my wife who thinks i would have had "an excellent chance to join the most profitable and stable airline in aviation history." Never wanted to work there. Best management? Well, i don't know, i don't know them so i can't agree there. I will say, good luck in DEN, i feel a lot of heat brewing in the mile high city.
 

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Have you read a detailed list of what "your" union demanded of SWAPA and SWA? I just read a few and I am stunned and your demands.

Gup
 

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Why do you assume you'd be on the street from Day One? Please do us a favor. Since you won't be joining the geniuses in SWAPA, please let us know how it's going for you in a year or two at your Regional.
 

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Have you read a detailed list of what "your" union demanded of SWAPA and SWA? I just read a few and I am stunned and your demands.

Gup
I had to react like that to that stupid post...sorry. No , i have not seen them yet, but i have been told that both sides will blow this out of proportion to try to make themselves look like the better player, so like i said in another thread, we will have to wait and compare the two sides when ours come out.
 

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Have you read a detailed list of what "your" union demanded of SWAPA and SWA? I just read a few and I am stunned and your demands.

Gup
actually no, info from our union was not very forthcoming. Could you post the info here as I'd be curious to see what we were asking for.
 

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Why do you assume you'd be on the street from Day One? Please do us a favor. Since you won't be joining the geniuses in SWAPA, please let us know how it's going for you in a year or two at your Regional.
Gee, that does not take a freakin genius!!! They wanted to park 10 planes from day one...they said they only would need 80% of the pilots to fly the remaining planes...according to my math, that would have put me on the street day one...assumption proven!:rolleyes:

A year or two at my regional...hmmmm...let's see here, F9 is a major, so that means from the date of purchase RAH should in theory become a major...so sure, i'll let you know how i am doing in a year or two at my "major."
 

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Gee, that does not take a freakin genius!!! They wanted to park 10 planes from day one...they said they only would need 80% of the pilots to fly the remaining planes...according to my math, that would have put me on the street day one...assumption proven!:rolleyes:

A year or two at my regional...hmmmm...let's see here, F9 is a major, so that means from the date of purchase RAH should in theory become a major...so sure, i'll let you know how i am doing in a year or two at my "major."
hey noel, i thought you were goin to bed, and lay off the kool aid brutha, all that sugar aint good for ya
 

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I am...and i only drink sugar free.:D
 

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Gup,

You have been claiming F9 should be stapled from the get go.
 

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THAT'S IT, I'm Going to bed!!!!!! See everyone in 8 days. Have fun with this like i know all good FI readers will.:D
 

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It is a better deal short term for F9 to go with Republic, SWA will still be coming as competition, not just in Denver, but in other markets as well. Back to business as normal.
 

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Gup,

You have been claiming F9 should be stapled from the get go.
Hey man I never said I was an angel! Actually I caught more crap for my last attempt - integration starting with #1 FO and 10:1 after that.

I just think that no kidding not budging off of -

1. seat protection
2. domicile integrity - FOREVER
3. several thousand bucks a month plus benies for your furloughed dudes
4. Integration, not even DOH

was plain astounding. It is what it is and I wish you well. I just hope that your union spoke for the majority.

Gup
 

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........... and BTW. If I was still FAPA I might be damned proud of "my" union so I won't cast further judgement.

Good luck ya'll.
Gup
 

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I worry that F9 lost this deal bc of cynicism of the industry. A seniority # at Swa w/ Swapa representing you is a much more solid thing than say the codeshares w/ ATA- or the AA/TWA deal- you just couldn't believe in the culture despite everyone assuring you that you would be brought in like family and taken care of. Noone would like it- but if the company came to Swapa and said we need you all to lose 5 trips / month to save jobs- it would have happened.

W/ my resume- I get the cynicism-Youd almost be stupid not to be. but this deal needed you to recognize how different Swa is. I didn't even know until I experienced it. It's not a coincidence our employees are so happy.

Good luck to F9ers- you're a great group from what I understand
 
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You can fool & lie to yourself all you want... The f9 pilots are, without a doubt, better off in the long run with WN. You all know it, but for the pride of it boast Republic a better deal. WN is a far superior company, hands down. F9ers have taken paycut after paycut, gave up 401k matching amongst other things to be the underdolphin that just makes it. You just want to be in that position because your comfortable there. The opportunity of a lifetime just went down the drain. We will and always will be giving up pay and benefits to appease the company. I'm happy your all so happy, but were going to be in the same position again & I bet this will repeat itself. They are going to sell F9 for a larger profit and we will be facing the same staple issue with WN. The only difference is you'll be 3 to 5 years older and on the bottom of the list... What will your pride & ego say then when your less resiliant?!?
 
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