ExpressJet takes out FULL PAGE AD in USA Today

[FN FAL]

YES YES YES! It's about time something like this was done. The public should be aware of this "How low can we go" attitude at the airlines. After all, why is it that my company can afford to pay me more to fly an aztec 60 hours a month, then some regionals pay their captains?

Even though I don't fly for the airlines, I'm 100% with you guys in stopping this downward spiral.



Best of luck-

Mike.

The public doesn't care about what you make a year. They want to ride on jets, not props and they think all commercial pilots make big cash!

 

[azpilot]

Ad Text

Continental Express Pilots
We are professional pilots and we deserve a contract that reflects this.
2,500 Professional Airline Pilots
Instrumental in making their company 2003 Regional Airline of the Year by safely transporting over 50,000 passengers daily to more than 130 destinations in the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

$17,600 - starting annual salary

Some of the professional pilots of Continental Express must do more than just fly airplanes in order to feed their families. Along with safely flying your airplane, the might work in a restaurant or in the retail industry. The might also proudly server our country in the military.

Please support the men and women who fly for Continental Express Airlines as they continue negotiations for a new contract.

Paid for by Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l.
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Good luck with the negotiations. Even if they go well I doubt the starting salary will change any. Never has in the past 10+ years and probably never will unless there ever is a true shortage of pilots to fill the seats.

 

[labbats]

I applaud the move. Go ALPA!

 

[BRA]

i liked the girl.

 

[mooser]

Does anyone have a link???

Can't seem to find it on www.usatoday.com

MoOsEr

 

[IADBLRJ41]

Go CoEX.. That was great to see as I was at FL 310!!!


Cheers

 

[Sam Fisher]

Even if they go well I doubt the starting salary will change any. Never has in the past 10+ years and probably never will unless there ever is a true shortage of pilots to fill the seats.

This isn't accurate at all. Please take a look at Comair's starting pay rates. Then take a look at Comair's old contract starting pay rates. Also, Continental Express used to have starting rates in the $13/hour range. Under the current contract, it is $19.50/hour. Under the new contract, it will be more no doubt. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Sam

 

[Ailerongirl]

proudly server our country in the military.

AZPilot.....did you copy and pasts this??? If so was this typo in the ad?????

 

[WSurf]

Good for you guys at CoEx. But what I dont understand is how in the hell a union can pay and put out a ad like that. And in the next breath sign off on a contract like Mesa's, that Coex Mang. will use against them when they neg. there contract. Maybe it was J4J too protect the Mainline furloughs, i dont know. Anyway, best of luck.. Some of my Piedmont boys have jumped over there, and I will back you guys 100%. If the time comes, I will gladly sign a check and mail it in. Best of luck, Protect the Profession!!! Don't do a Mesa!!!!

 

[azpilot]

AZPilot.....did you copy and pasts this??? If so was this typo in the ad?????

Nope I typed it out so I didn't catch it. Just trying to do some folks a favor.

 

[azpilot]

This isn't accurate at all. Please take a look at Comair's starting pay rates. Then take a look at Comair's old contract starting pay rates. Also, Continental Express used to have starting rates in the $13/hour range. Under the current contract, it is $19.50/hour. Under the new contract, it will be more no doubt. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Sam

Well I am one who thinks starting pay should be between $25-30k depending on equipment at a regional. Based on the requirements and responsibilities of the job. While anything closer to 20k is a good thing it is still way to low. Just look at what your average college grad would make with a 4 year degree straight out of school.

 

[erj-145mech]

Does anyone have a link???

Can't seem to find it on www.usatoday.com

MoOsEr

http://www.aviationinterviews.com/images/ALPA.pdf

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

http://www.aviationinterviews.com/images/ALPA.pdf

Simply awesome!

 

[Nova]

Well I am one who thinks starting pay should be between $25-30k depending on equipment at a regional. Based on the requirements and responsibilities of the job. While anything closer to 20k is a good thing it is still way to low. Just look at what your average college grad would make with a 4 year degree straight out of school.

Between $25-30k? Thanks for lowed expectations. Look at this small survey of degrees and their starting salaries...

http://www.jobweb.com/SalaryInfo/starting_salary_5yr.htm

Your starting expectations put us at the level of a Liberal Arts major and a teacher (who has a 9 month work cycle). Actually most teachers are above your starting salary range.

Either you've never walked a mile in the shoes of a Regional pilot or you've been completely blinded by some CEO's BS.

 

[azpilot]

Between $25-30k? Thanks for lowed expectations. Look at this small survey of degrees and their starting salaries...

http://www.jobweb.com/SalaryInfo/starting_salary_5yr.htm

Either you've never walked a mile in the shoes of a Regional pilot or you've been completely blinded by some CEO's BS.

Nova,

I don't quite understand what the f#$% you are talking about. The ad complains COEX FO's are making less than $18,000 per year. I said it should be between $25-30. I guess I forgot the words AT LEAST. Anyone can say based on what time and expense one has invested they should make much more but the likelyhood of that is very doubtful. I don't really have an issue with a first year probabtionary wage. I just think it should be much higher so one can afford to eat. I don't see how I have a "lowed", I think you mean lowered expectations, when the current expectation for those starting out today at a regional is between $15-20k. So what particular CEO BS do you think I am blinded by? That pilots are not worth the pay they are asking for? You are attacking the wrong person here.