Evergreen Furlough

[scubabri]

I'm sure we'll be at war with Iran soon enough.

 

[Blackbeard]

You already had the massive part. I we don't get some cash soon we will all be out of work for X Mass... You only have 20 classic crews now. Not sure how many on the 400.
We need cash to to get more 400's and that will mean less 200 flying. If this does not happen soon we are done for...

Zoneload,

Have you heard anything regarding the sale of EHI? My Mickeyville source said it was looking like this time it actually was going to go thru.

 

[Zoneload]

Zoneload,

Have you heard anything regarding the sale of EHI? My Mickeyville source said it was looking like this time it actually was going to go thru.

That is what I have heard also. But we have been down this road 2 other times.
If it sells this time we should be ok. If not then I think we are done for.

 

[GG747]

Zoneload, you seem to be in the know. IF EHI sells, how long before we burn through that cash to be in the same situation as we are in today?

We sold Marana and it didn't take long before we were back in the "money crunch".

 

[Zoneload]

A very good point. I can only hope that with adding a few more 400 aircraft and parking the old worn out classic aircraft will help generate money. You have to remember that for the first 3 months of 2012 we had no flying. So we are still digging out of that hole. I don't know if the sale will help or not. I really don't know anymore!!! I do know that like you guys I want to see this work. I need the job!!!

 

[scubabri]

^^^ What zoneload said!

 

[AHTTD]

Zoneload, check private messages please ...

 

[AHTTD]

Keep this thread alive fellas. I need all the info I can get on EZ - and I'm an 'outsider'.

 

[avpro91]

Keep this thread alive fellas. I need all the info I can get on EZ - and I'm an 'outsider'.

You don't want to be an insider..trust me.

 

[Zoneload]

Lodge being built across the street,, Our pay on the 15th will not arrive till the 17th.. Things pretty much suck now..

 

[scubabri]

woop woop, pull up! woop woop, pull up!

 

[Blackbeard]

Scubari.....be glad you are out of here. I know it sucks initially to be furloughed from any job....but there is a silver lining!

Everybody gets a better job when they leave here. It is almost impossible to get a worse one.

Best of luck!

 

[scubabri]

I was heartbroken when I found out that I was going to get furloughed. although I understand the financial mechanics behind it, my dream of flying a 747 around the world was dashed. after my first flight, I knew it was what I wanted to be doing.

hopefully the economy picks up and I can get picked up someplace else. I'm interviewing at Omni in a couple weeks, crossing my fingers it works out.

I think Evergreen will recover, if we go to war with Iran. :-/

 

[HA25]

I think Evergreen will recover, if we go to war with Iran. :-/

love my friends at EZ, but frankly, I'd rather not see that for many reasons, not the least of which is that company needs to transition to a civilian based business model... just like Southern is doing... the Government welfare train has come to an end..

 

[Zoneload]

We are trying to make the transition now but it might be to late. We need more 400's but with out the cash they are hard to find.

 

[Blackbeard]

I find it odd that management is not trying to find efficiencies and cost savings.

They don't ask the crews to conserve fuel or time, they aren't trying to minimize travel costs, they just don't seem to be doing anything. Crew Resource Control is more screwed up than ever. Crews sitting around doing nothing, and then we have flights delayed because of crew rest issues. This is ridiculous.

I would think there would be more of a push to save $$$ and make sure flights are on time. But nothing from a crew perspective seems to be different.

Our new CEO needs to bring in some real management at the puzzle palace.

 

[GG747]

This place is going from bad to worse.

 

[Zoneload]

I have to agree with you. No money to pay bills but no one seems to be cutting back. I was not kidding about them looking for more planes. Very strange. I think we will no more soon.

 

[HA25]

I find it odd that management is not trying to find efficiencies and cost savings.

They don't ask the crews to conserve fuel or time, they aren't trying to minimize travel costs, they just don't seem to be doing anything. Crew Resource Control is more screwed up than ever. Crews sitting around doing nothing, and then we have flights delayed because of crew rest issues. This is ridiculous.

I would think there would be more of a push to save $$$ and make sure flights are on time. But nothing from a crew perspective seems to be different.

Our new CEO needs to bring in some real management at the puzzle palace.

and the DO firing the best scheduler you had probably wasn't the best start...

 

[propsarebest]

and the DO firing the best scheduler you had probably wasn't the best start...

And that would be??

and the only place that saved any money was the MX dept. They were ALWAYS the first place that DMS started to slash when things go south. Remember the couple of months in 2010 before the first big loan payment was due? the mx budget AND staffing was cut in half. No other cuts anywhere else.

 

[HA25]

And that would be?

Her first name is Julie, last starts with E.

As for management trying to save money and being Inept;

Steve H DID send out an email to all pilots asking for ideas and I know from personal experience that he did reply to them with their take on those ideas. I know from talking to a handful of guys that many didn't send anything in.

I also know they opened the new crew bases to lower the cost of travel. There is only so much middle managers can do. Don't blame those guys, the blame lays squarely on one man. Smith.

 

[GG747]

She was great to work with. That was a mistake letting her go.

 

[Zoneload]

She was good at her job but there might have been more to her going away than we know...The 15th is 2 days away. That is when the big payment is due. Lets hope for the best boys and girls...

 

[Blackbeard]

What was the reason the CP was let go last month?

 

[HA25]

What was the reason the CP was let go last month?

I heard he quit, not was "let go".... what did you hear?

 

[Blackbeard]

I heard he quit, not was "let go".... what did you hear?

That's just it.....haven't heard anything. It has been unusually quiet. Normally there would be some info available regarding whether he quit or was fired.

 

[Zoneload]

I heard let go last month around the 20th...

 

[HA25]

I heard let go last month around the 20th...

The other CP, CC is a friend I mine. Didn't say anything to me about that though.

 

[Zoneload]

All I know is what I was told the day he left... He will be fine. He can go back to medical school.

 

[propsarebest]

You guys get paid yet?

I bet the work over at the "compound" is proceeding as planned.