Evergreen Furlough

[HA25]

But.....EZ missed payroll on Friday! If they don't pay up by Monday, they might not have enough crews to move aircraft.

you sure there wash''t an explanation for that? administrative or otherwise? that's serious.

 

[Zoneload]

EIA has a big bond payment due on Monday or Tuesday.. I was shocked when I heard about the flight crew pay was not there on the last Friday of the month. The rest of the company gets paid on the last day of the month. Very odd things going on here. I hope our new Pres will get this under control. For the last 10 years no one has been running this place. Money has been going from the airline to pay for Everything in MMV when that money should have been used to get 400's. We parked planes at the start of the year instead of doing what ever charter work they could find to pay the bills. Now we have a new Pres and he is trying to play catch up from years of people doing nothing but running this place into the ground. I just hope he can do it...

 

[Zoneload]

I heard that they put out a voice mail to the crews..

 

[tubineotter]

"gg The 400 is set up as a transition course from the classic."


how is this even possible?

 

[Nevergreen]

Prez Wheeler wrote in the newsletter a few weeks ago that Saudia did not want another EZ 400 now. Of course that could change.

So it does look like both new 400's are going AMC.

But only if we get paid Monday. Our Fleet Capt. CC; personally told me on Friday morning they did not have the money to pay us before the weekend and we would get it next week.

We will see. No money, no flying.

 

[Sky Jet]

While in principle I believe that "no money/no fly" is a good idea, I might think twice about not flying. IF and it is a big if you can go on the road and spend little to no money it might be in your best interest to fly while you look for a new job. If you are considering going the expat route overseas currency is a huge issue. Many airlines will not touch you if you are not current. Some will let you buy currency on your own dime. My advice: Find a check airman and get him to give you a line check and make sure you have copies of the paperwork. Fly until they shut down or it is starting to cost you to much money to stay out. This might not make you feel great but it might help you find another job.

Jet

 

[Flyer1015]

Evergreen is hiring 747 FOs as of April 28, 2012:


Job Description:

EVERGREEN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES POSITION DESCRIPTION

JOB TITLE JOB REPORTS TO (TITLE)

B-747 First Officer 747 Fleet Captain

DEPARTMENT JOB SUPERVISES (TITLES)

Operations None

Minimum Requirements: (4000 total, 1000 Pilot In Command, 1000 Turbine. 1000 hours PIC Turbojet preferred.)

I. JOB PURPOSE

Second-In Command of the aircraft. Assist the Captain in safe and efficient conduct of flight.

II. WORKING CONDITIONS

Physical Demands: Requires sitting and standing for extended periods of time. Requires frequent walking, bending, stooping, and reaching above shoulder level. Requires occasional squatting, crouching, or kneeling. Requires occasional lifting, carrying, pushing or pulling weight up to 30 pounds. Requires eye-hand coordination. Requires corrected vision and hearing to normal range.

Protective Equipment Required: Ear protection.

Potential Hazards: Exposure to high intensity noise levels, changes in temperature, materials identified on Material Safety Data Sheets, working around moving machinery.

III. JOB DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES

Essential Job Functions:

First Officer is Second-In Command of the flight when Reserve Captain is not assigned to the flight crew.

Must comply with all regulations and directives pertaining to the conduct of the flight in a manner suitable to the Captain.

Aid the Captain with pre-flight and in-flight duties.

Must perform any functions as assigned by the Captain.

Duties not listed within the position description may be required of the employee at the discretion of the department management. Job functions may vary due to irregular working conditions or multiple shift positions.


We are proud to be an EEO/AA employer M/F/D/V. We maintain a drug-free workplace and perform pre-employment substance abuse testing.

 

[HA25]

While in principle I believe that "no money/no fly" is a good idea, I might think twice about not flying. IF and it is a big if you can go on the road and spend little to no money it might be in your best interest to fly while you look for a new job. If you are considering going the expat route overseas currency is a huge issue. Many airlines will not touch you if you are not current. Some will let you buy currency on your own dime. My advice: Find a check airman and get him to give you a line check and make sure you have copies of the paperwork. Fly until they shut down or it is starting to cost you to much money to stay out. This might not make you feel great but it might help you find another job.

Jet

currency is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of, I mean military pilots will go two years without flying and no problem, or FE's back in the day sat sideways for years before flying in the right seat.... but it is what it is, they DO require 6 months to year..

with that said, flying for a couple of more weeks without pay will not make a bit of difference in the big picture.

 

[tubineotter]

Flying for a couple of more weeks will make uncle Dell Happy, sorry guys i Hope it is just an admin glitch.

 

[atpcliff]

Many international jobs require a sim within the last 6 mos, or 3 mos, and/or flying time in the last year/6 mos/3 mos, etc. It IS important for those types of contract jobs....on the other hand I met a director of MX in Africa that hadn't been paid in 7 months, and a pilot that hadn't been paid in 2 years....so you need to cut it off at some point!!!

cliff
HHN

 

[Blackbeard]

So the bastards paid up. Everybody I talked to this morning received their direct deposit this morning.....3 days late.

Personally, since they decided to screw us for three days, I think we should return the favor and give them 3 days of late flights.

Of course, our pilot group doesn't have the courage.

 

[Zoneload]

You could call in sick at wake up..

 

[tubineotter]

the crew group @ EZ wont do ********************e, thank you sir may i have another.....

That why they have a 10 year old contract.

One of the major reasons i left.

 

[HA25]

Unity is critical to any union functioning properly... I don't know what's broken with Evergreen, but there has to be something to the fact that they're so low on the pay scale for the type of flying they do... not to mention no home base, and from what I have heard, marginal medical and 401K..

 

[Blackbeard]

It is because of the union we are so low on the pay and benefits right now.

the majority of us are ready to strike and shut this place down. IF they don't want to pay then they can go out of business. But literally for the last three years ALPA in DC has been telling us we can't strike, they won't support it because Evergreen is and has been in bad shape.

It is time for ALPA to go away and for the crewmembers to take control of the siuation.

 

[Capt. JD]

There is a job posting for B-747 First Officers on PlaneJobs.com!

 

[HA25]

It is because of the union we are so low on the pay and benefits right now.

the majority of us are ready to strike and shut this place down. IF they don't want to pay then they can go out of business. But literally for the last three years ALPA in DC has been telling us we can't strike, they won't support it because Evergreen is and has been in bad shape.

It is time for ALPA to go away and for the crewmembers to take control of the siuation.

you just might be right, if that is in fact what ALPA is telling you. How can they say it's in bad shape when the holding company and Smith are worth a billion or more dollars?

 

[Nevergreen]

you just might be right, if that is in fact what ALPA is telling you. How can they say it's in bad shape when the holding company and Smith are worth a billion or more dollars?

That is EXACTLY what our former MEC President and current President and former VP have been saying. ALPA National in DC won't allow us to take action against the company because ALPA believes the company is in bad shape, and can't afford to pay us more.

But anyone who knows EZ also knows that Del has been using the airline to build his waterpark, his Imax, his 2 musuems, his personal hanger for his personal G4, and of course the 75 million he wasted on the useless DOA firebomber.

I, too, would like to tell ALPA to shove it and return to our own in house union or give the teamsters a shot.

 

[propsarebest]

... Don't forget bankrolling the helicopter company, the many ag operations that lose money every year and all the other stuff.

 

[Zoneload]

A Billion dollars??? Anyone who has been here for a while knows a billion is a bit of a stretch. I think the 75 million for the tanker is not correct also. Anytime someone talks about the tanker the price goes up 5 million. All the stuff across the street in MMV might have been 75 million.