Ever flown with Captain Queeg?

[rumpletumbler]

Subject says it all. Just curious if there are many out there as I'm sure there are at least a few.

RT

 

[WileE]

I assume

You are referring to Queeg from "The Caine Mutiny" right?

To answer your question, I have never flown with anyone near that bad. I've flown with a-holes and a couple near incompetents before (it's amazing that they are usually one and the same) and you basically deal with them by staying as coldly professional as you can.

 

[Typhoon1244]

I've met some Queegs, in all branches of avitaion.

"...mental disabliltyis a relative thing. Captain Queeg was a very strict disciplinarian, and extremely meticulous in hunting down the smallest matters, and quite insistent in having his own way in all things. He was not the easiest person in the world to reason with." --Lt. Thomas Keefer, The Caine Mutiny

Now who's never flown with somebody like that?

By the way, The Caine Mutiny contains the best CRM advice I've ever read. (See below)

 

[captjim]

I've never flown with someone with all of his disorders, but I did fly with a guy we called Panic Boy. That guy had to have the worlds strongest sphincter muscles. This guy would panic when he would pull into a parking spot. His reputation got so bad that we would bid around him. Yep there are all types. Old Yellow Stain, we had him!

 

[bobbysamd]

Capt. Queeg

I can't say that I have, but I sure enjoyed watching The Caine Mutiny on TCM last Sunday!

I read the book at least three times in high school and read the play as well.

Good thread-starter.

 

[Britpilot]

Of course there are no lousy FO's out there, they are all much better than the Captains
How about a new thread, Have you ever flown with a "Right seat Captain"
It's a shame we can't bid around some of them.

 

[ShawnC]

Heres an example of a right seat captian:
http://www.rodmachado.com/Vjotm/Favorites/13-CRM%20High%20Mighty.rm

 

[Britpilot]

That's him, that's the guy I flew with

 

[FlyComAirJets]

Sort of reminds me of what Len Morgan, the great airline writer for many years at Flying magazine once wrote, the only thing worse than a copilot that has never been a captain is a captain that has never been a copilot!

 

[surplus1]

I'd rather be the @sshole in the left seat than the @sshole that sits to his right.

Briefing - CA to FO

"CRM = this is a Crew, you are the Resource, I am Management. Any questions?

Just kidding guys. Smile.

 

[Joseph II]

That video is funny.

 

[Britpilot]

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Briefing - CA to FO

"CRM = this is a Crew, you are the Resource, I am Management. Any questions?

Just kidding guys. Smile.

I am going to have to use that one

 

[Jeff G]

I thought the quote was something like: "The only thing worse than a captain who has never been a copilot is a copilot who used to be a captain." Think about it.

 

[Britpilot]

I thought the quote was something like: "The only thing worse than a captain who has never been a copilot is a copilot who used to be a captain." Think about it.

Oh yeah

 

[Humblepilot]

Does this count?

Do short Napoleonic Ex Military Captains count? (I will refrain from commenting on the service). Then yes. I agree with the comment about a Captain that has never been an FO. I have learned more about how I want to be when I return to the left seat because of what I have seen and heard sitting in the right.

One of my close captain friends from the regional I flew for told me of flying with a guy that had the nickname of "Captain FO" who use to keep the FOM out on his lap and preach. Finally on the last leg, he had enough. When briefing for the visual approach he said to the FO, "This f$@$#@g airplane on that f&*%$#g runway. Any questions?"

Lets just say the FOM was put up.

Yall Fly Safe.
Humble

 

[CL60]

rumpletumbler,

Maybe not Captain Queeg but... worse if you can believe it. I was only one among many in a long list of FO's this person used as human toilet paper. Here are just a few characteristics of my least memorable captain:

Egomaniacle, bullying, extremely confrontational, demeaning to subordinates, "knows it all," "did it all," undermining of even the slightest amount of confidence his F/O managed to build, verbally threaten to do physical harm to F/O, threaten to fire F/O at least once a week, unable to accurately remember any of his own mistakes, (he just remembered his mistakes differently than they actually occurred... he lied), able to remember all and even the smallest F/O mistakes, etc, etc, etc... Good news is, these people don't usually go very far if they survive.

Bitter, me? At first, yes. I eventually learned to treat it as a learning experience though. If you have had similar experiences, pm me and I'm sure I can give you some advice.

 

[CL60]

Oh yeah, this is the best part!!

His first words to me in the cockpit were:

"I don't need you here, I don't want you here, the only reason you are here is because this aircraft requires two pilots."

I'll never forget it!! Now, I have to laugh every time I recall the day he said that to me. He could have starred in the posted video.

 

[checkessential]

An infamous Capt. brief at our airline states that the F/O can be replaced with a magazine rack, and the F/A with a Coke machine...

 

[Captain X]

Ahhhh...Panic Boy.....

The memories. That dude would run back to the lav on the 120 as soon as the sterile light went off. And every single **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** time, I had to turn the freakin' recirc fans off so I wouldn't pass out.

As far as the whole CO-Captain thing............ Have I got some stories about that!!!

 

[ShawnC]

The memories. That dude would run back to the lav on the 120 as soon as the sterile light went off. And every single **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** time, I had to turn the freakin' recirc fans off so I wouldn't pass out.

Well there is always 100% O2.