ETOPS for SkyWest 700/900??

[Draginass]

cool.from where? ATL?

That's a classic. Another wet nosed nitwit that think's it would be great to fly long-haul international ops for commuter compensation.

ETOPS indeed. Geeez. :nuts:

 

[flatspin7]

AR = Atlantic Routes

They are routes that are used to cross the Atlantic to go to Europe.

Something I hope they never try in an RJ, that would make for a interesting flight....talk about wet footprint!!!:laugh:

You are thinking NAT tracks which go from North America to Europe... The AR routes extend form North Carolina to South Florida... They take you well beyond the 50 miles off shore and you need an overwater equiped airplane.

 

[airtime42]

guys give the skywhores a break they don't know their heads from their a$$eS anyway. ETOPS for an RJ that just proves my point.. A bunch of wannabes..

 

[flyboyzz1]

guys give the skywhores a break they don't know their heads from their a$$eS anyway. ETOPS for an RJ that just proves my point.. A bunch of wannabes..

Thanks God

 

[veneratio]

162 miles off shore. All pilots are getting trained as we speak...

ETOPS has no direct correlation with "flying" over water.

 

[Headfake14]

for the sake of fun stupid argument. WHERE in the world would you stash a couple of rafts onboard.

Someone mentioned the pool training...you only do that to train for the rafts/slide rafts.

The barbie jet doesn't have slides...soooo, you'd need at least two rafts. The are BIG. Unless youplan on removing some seats...(soup nazi) NO over water for YOU!

Unless you're going to use ASAs footwork for their EOW for the CR7s approval that someone else mentioned.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

Unless you're going to use ASAs footwork for their EOW for the CR7s approval that someone else mentioned.

I believe you have it correct there, Sir. That is what this is all about, not ETOPS. Not to be silly, but! An FO I recently flew with had our POI in the jumpseat the previous week and the Fed said the paperwork was done and approved for some type of overwater B.S. Not ETOPS. I don't know the details but it sounded like it was something for the Caribean. Where else are you going to fly an RJ over water? The Great Salt Lake?

 

[Headfake14]

Lake Okeechobee in south FL. hahaha

ASA has the 162mile rule if I remember correctly. But only for the 700s. We had no love on the 200.

And for clarification:

ETOPS--Extended range Twin engine Operational Performance Standards.

Has NOTHING to do with water...could be a desert or crossing one of the poles.

EOW--Extended Overwater is anything over 50miles off shore

 

[Metro752]

A regional shouldn't be doing this sort of flying.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

We're not a regional, we're a commuter.

 

[jehtplane]

These People know less about ETOPS than I know about HGH, by the way I learned about HGH from my mother, and I think Mr Pettite misremembers everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dojetdriver]

We're not a regional, we're a commuter.

Thats right. And it will give new meaning to the term "puddle jumper".

 

[John Pennekamp]

ASA has the "exemption" ETOPS, and has used it for well over a year. It allows our -700s to go directly over the Gulf of Mex to places like Belize. It could also be used for service like JFK-SJU and JFK-Bermuda

 

[TOOL CRIB]

ASA has the "exemption" ETOPS, and has used it for well over a year. It allows our -700s to go directly over the Gulf of Mex to places like Belize. It could also be used for service like JFK-SJU and JFK-Bermuda

ASA doesn't have ETOPS. We are approved for extended overwater operations on the CRJ700. All they had to do for that was make us watch a video, tell us to stay with the boundaries (up to 162nm off shore) and install bigger life vests. And a lot of paperwork I'm sure.

 

[John Pennekamp]

ASA doesn't have ETOPS. We are approved for extended overwater operations on the CRJ700. All they had to do for that was make us watch a video, tell us to stay with the boundaries (up to 162nm off shore) and install bigger life vests. And a lot of paperwork I'm sure.

Right. I should have said "ETOPS" because it's really just an exemption. RJs are not going to europe!

 

[XPOO]

I may be wrong...but I thought the exemption was an hour on driftdown from the nearest "suitable" airport...not just any type of land. Am I confusing this with another exemption?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

I may be wrong...but I thought the exemption was an hour on driftdown from the nearest "suitable" airport...not just any type of land. Am I confusing this with another exemption?

Nope, ASA does 162nm from the nearest "shoreline". That's down in the Caribbean anyway.

 

[XPOO]

I used to dispatch 737-200 flights from KSFB to TKPK (St. Kitts), and we had a NM restriction and a suitable airport restriction to go with it. But the operation was pretty Mickey Mouse anyways. So maybe they had it all screwed up to begin with. LOL!

 

[Willy21]

ASA has the "exemption" ETOPS, and has used it for well over a year. It allows our -700s to go directly over the Gulf of Mex to places like Belize. It could also be used for service like JFK-SJU and JFK-Bermuda

Check your distance on JFK - Bermuda and you will find it is much more than 162 miles from land, more than 800 miles over the water. Bermuda needs a raft end of story.

 

[XPOO]

Beg to differ, my previous company flew the JFK-BDA. There are tiny little islands along the way out there that are within the 162NM restriction.