ETOPS for SkyWest 700/900??

[jehtplane]

These People know less about ETOPS than I know about HGH, by the way I learned about HGH from my mother, and I think Mr Pettite misremembers everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dojetdriver]

We're not a regional, we're a commuter.

Thats right. And it will give new meaning to the term "puddle jumper".

 

[John Pennekamp]

ASA has the "exemption" ETOPS, and has used it for well over a year. It allows our -700s to go directly over the Gulf of Mex to places like Belize. It could also be used for service like JFK-SJU and JFK-Bermuda

 

[TOOL CRIB]

ASA has the "exemption" ETOPS, and has used it for well over a year. It allows our -700s to go directly over the Gulf of Mex to places like Belize. It could also be used for service like JFK-SJU and JFK-Bermuda

ASA doesn't have ETOPS. We are approved for extended overwater operations on the CRJ700. All they had to do for that was make us watch a video, tell us to stay with the boundaries (up to 162nm off shore) and install bigger life vests. And a lot of paperwork I'm sure.

 

[John Pennekamp]

ASA doesn't have ETOPS. We are approved for extended overwater operations on the CRJ700. All they had to do for that was make us watch a video, tell us to stay with the boundaries (up to 162nm off shore) and install bigger life vests. And a lot of paperwork I'm sure.

Right. I should have said "ETOPS" because it's really just an exemption. RJs are not going to europe!

 

[XPOO]

I may be wrong...but I thought the exemption was an hour on driftdown from the nearest "suitable" airport...not just any type of land. Am I confusing this with another exemption?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

I may be wrong...but I thought the exemption was an hour on driftdown from the nearest "suitable" airport...not just any type of land. Am I confusing this with another exemption?

Nope, ASA does 162nm from the nearest "shoreline". That's down in the Caribbean anyway.

 

[XPOO]

I used to dispatch 737-200 flights from KSFB to TKPK (St. Kitts), and we had a NM restriction and a suitable airport restriction to go with it. But the operation was pretty Mickey Mouse anyways. So maybe they had it all screwed up to begin with. LOL!

 

[Willy21]

ASA has the "exemption" ETOPS, and has used it for well over a year. It allows our -700s to go directly over the Gulf of Mex to places like Belize. It could also be used for service like JFK-SJU and JFK-Bermuda

Check your distance on JFK - Bermuda and you will find it is much more than 162 miles from land, more than 800 miles over the water. Bermuda needs a raft end of story.

 

[XPOO]

Beg to differ, my previous company flew the JFK-BDA. There are tiny little islands along the way out there that are within the 162NM restriction.

 

[SilverandSore]

Beg to differ, my previous company flew the JFK-BDA. There are tiny little islands along the way out there that are within the 162NM restriction.

Looking at Google Map I don't see jack along the way!

 

[XPOO]

Sorry, correction, it was 737-800 they were using which has a looser NM restriction. I think when I was dispatching the 737-200 is was around 180NM. Maybe the -800 is more like 270NM?

 

[Willy21]

Looking at the numbers I will admit JFK - TXKF is more like 600 miles over the water. After flying that route many times I have never seen any tiny islands, much less a hard surface to land an airplane. I am sure the FAA's true intent of the overwater restriction is to provide a place that the pax and crew can get access to emergency services. I would think tiny islands or sandbars don't fit the bill.

Until I see evidence of tiny islands between JFK and TXKF I will stand firm in the statement that when flying to Bermuda you need a raft.

 

[Willy21]

Your 737-800 didn't have rafts? I would think you would lose a lot of the capabilities of the airplane without a raft.

 

[XPOO]

The 738 had rafts and lifevests. But the route takes you down toward ILM (Wilmington, NC) and then out toward BDA. The distance is *about* 535NM from there.