Entire Airtran MEC given letters of Suspension

[livintheredream]

Airtran MGT gave letters of suspension to the MEC for allowing the pilots to where there brass during info picketing. I am not suprised though. Something else that I wont forget. Why would anyone want to come here.......?

 

[b82rez]

Airtran MGT gave letters of suspension to the MEC for allowing the pilots to where there brass during info picketing. I am not suprised though. Something else that I wont forget. Why would anyone want to come here.......?

where's the brass?

 

[JoeMerchant]

You mean PCL_128 is suspended? I guess we will see more of him here on FI.....

 

[OurMoney1]

Are they trying to incite an all out war?

Is this true?

OMG.....

 

[Dashcaptain]

Yes, it is true.

 

[Max Powers]

Deal Reached to Clear F/O ####, ALPA I.D. Clips

AirTran management agreed yesterday, in a memo of understanding (MOU), to rescind the suspension of First Officer ######. The company suspended First Officer #### last spring, claiming that he had violated the FOM by wearing his uniform to an NPA family awareness event.

The company also agreed to allow our members to wear their full uniforms, insignia included, during future informational picketing. Pilots will still need management permission, granted on a case-by-case basis, to wear the uniform to other events. At no time, however, will pilots be allowed to wear the uniform to certain gatherings, such as rallies for political candidates or protests against other corporations.

Furthermore, the Union will soon distribute ALPA branded retractable I.D. clips. Management consented to this compromise measure, which allows our pilots to display their unity while addressing the company’s stated concerns regarding the safety of the Association’s lanyards.

Finally, management has issued letters of suspension to the MEC officers. The company claims the MEC encouraged the membership to violate the FOM by picketing in uniform without permission. The MEC is contesting the suspensions through the normal grievance process, and looks forward to the review by a neutral arbitrator.

In the meantime, we continue to work toward a positive resolution regarding all of our hostage pilots, including Captains #### and ######.

 

[Max Powers]

Looks like; in the aggregate a solid win for aai alpa.

 

[BoilerUP]

Wouldn't suspending the entire union leadership be a violation of status quo since AAI is in contract negotiations?

 

[Lear70]

No, but it's a clear violation of the RLA and clearly Hostile Work Environment lawsuit-worthy, although it'll be interesting to see if our MEC pulls the trigger on the lawsuits (been hoping they would for a while).

Both the MEC President and VP were on full-time buy anyway, they weren't on the line so don't suffer anything except having to get their records cleared eventually. They'll remain on full-time Flight Pay Loss in their union positions. The Sec/Treas will also be paid FPL for his time out.

What a mess...

 

[ultrarunner]

I find it hard to believe that sitting MEC officers would actually encourage a violation of the FOM. I call BS on that one.

 

[another cfii]

I'd like to know who's calling all the shots for these "tactical" misteps from mgmt?? Have they cleared it all the way up to Joe?

 

[Flybywire44]

Well, Airtran just gave their pilots more resolve to buck the system! We'll see how badly their operations degrade.

 

[Murphy]

I find it hard to believe that sitting MEC officers would actually encourage a violation of the FOM. I call BS on that one.

I can't paraphrase it exactly, but we are supposed to wear our hats in view of the traveling public according to the FOM. If we are waiting at the gate for our inbound aircraft, we can be sitting in the gate area without our skull caps on. The uniform police are vigilant throughout the concourse to "counsel" any offenders in a polite and professional manner.

It really is a cheap ass hat. Low cost carrier, low cost hats. I look ridiculous in it, but I really don't give a ******************** because that's what I'm supposed to buy from Alpharetta and the company handlers.

Our CBA in Section II says we are supposed to wear the prescribed company uniform in the manner that our captors prescribe.

Anyone have any case law on the legality of informational picketing and the proper attire for airline employees?

 

[GuppyWN]

Never let go of the thrust levers.

Gup

 

[Metro752]

Airtran management is on crack.

 

[airksk]

Deal Reached to Clear F/O ####, ALPA I.D. Clips




Furthermore, the Union will soon distribute ALPA branded retractable I.D. clips. Management consented to this compromise measure, which allows our pilots to display their unity while addressing the company’s stated concerns regarding the safety of the Association’s lanyards.


What the heck are managements stated concerns regarding the safety of the Association's lanyards? I've been getting by without hanging myself for quite a while.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Seriously, AAI management needs a group pee test.

 

[Lear70]

I'd like to know who's calling all the shots for these "tactical" misteps from mgmt?? Have they cleared it all the way up to Joe?

Yes, sort of.

Joe doesn't work here anymore. He retired as president and CEO in November, 2007, but remained as Chairman of the Board until November, 2008.

Bob Fornaro runs the show now and yes, he's aware of everything going on.

I wouldn't necessarily call it "missteps", either. They have a tactical purpose for doing this, don't doubt it. We simply don't know their game plan... yet...

It's chess, not checkers.

 

[Captainzero1]

Air Tran management is sure opening themselves to a legal mess that is going to be expensive down the road. Why can't southern companies get it through their thick skull that workers have the right to organize and lose the plantation mentality.

 

[another cfii]

Yes, sort of.

Joe doesn't work here anymore. He retired as president and CEO in November, 2007, but remained as Chairman of the Board until November, 2008.

Bob Fornaro runs the show now and yes, he's aware of everything going on.

I wouldn't necessarily call it "missteps", either. They have a tactical purpose for doing this, don't doubt it. We simply don't know their game plan... yet...

It's chess, not checkers.

Thanks for the clarification, Rich. I meant to type Bob I actually don't think if Joe's still running the show, this woudn't happen.

 

[ron burgundy]

disregard

 

[ron burgundy]

I can't paraphrase it exactly, but we are supposed to wear our hats in view of the traveling public according to the FOM. If we are waiting at the gate for our inbound aircraft, we can be sitting in the gate area without our skull caps on. The uniform police are vigilant throughout the concourse to "counsel" any offenders in a polite and professional manner.

It really is a cheap ass hat. Low cost carrier, low cost hats. I look ridiculous in it, but I really don't give a ******************** because that's what I'm supposed to buy from Alpharetta and the company handlers.

Our CBA in Section II says we are supposed to wear the prescribed company uniform in the manner that our captors prescribe.

Anyone have any case law on the legality of informational picketing and the proper attire for airline employees?

When challenged.." During a violent a/c swap with a scheduled 32 min turn..arriving at gate D1 and departing out of C5..In an effort to do my job and maintain schedule integrity, I guess I was in a hurry and I left it in the aircraft..it hasn't turned up in "lost and found" yet. I've had to order another one..at 80 bucks apiece, I'm not happy"!

 

[jetflier]

You know you can always stop in any airport news stand and buy a kids "pilot hat" and comply with the request to wear a hat! That should satisfy the "hat police"

 

[rajflyboy]

What do you guys expect? Half of your training department is on the "SCAB LIST" !!

and you guys don't do anything about it ???

WTF ???

 

[Adiabatic Pilot]

And we have 21 less people on 'the list' than you. Ya gotta get a firewall. Buh-Bye!

 

[c9skytrain]

Air Tran management is sure opening themselves to a legal mess that is going to be expensive down the road. Why can't southern companies get it through their thick skull that workers have the right to organize and lose the plantation mentality.

While I agree with the part about the legal mess the company will be in, I must point out Jet Blue and Virgin America are hardly southern companies.

 

[Kharma Police]

While I agree with the part about the legal mess the company will be in, I must point out Jet Blue and Virgin America are hardly southern companies.

Not sure what difference it makes if a company is based in the south. Are you talking about the lack of unionism in the region? The management team is mostly Yankee and Euro with work experience from northern based airlines. The HQ is in Florida, which most southerners don't consider (from an ideological and cultural standpoint) part of the south.

 

[tathagatha]

Save yo confederate moneh boys, the south is gonna rize agin

 

[JimmyKool]

Forklift Joe! You guys know that one? At least he's gone.

 

[c9skytrain]

Karhma, I was responding to a post by Captainzero1. look at previous posts.