Entire Airtran MEC given letters of Suspension

[ron burgundy]

disregard

 

[ron burgundy]

I can't paraphrase it exactly, but we are supposed to wear our hats in view of the traveling public according to the FOM. If we are waiting at the gate for our inbound aircraft, we can be sitting in the gate area without our skull caps on. The uniform police are vigilant throughout the concourse to "counsel" any offenders in a polite and professional manner.

It really is a cheap ass hat. Low cost carrier, low cost hats. I look ridiculous in it, but I really don't give a ******************** because that's what I'm supposed to buy from Alpharetta and the company handlers.

Our CBA in Section II says we are supposed to wear the prescribed company uniform in the manner that our captors prescribe.

Anyone have any case law on the legality of informational picketing and the proper attire for airline employees?

When challenged.." During a violent a/c swap with a scheduled 32 min turn..arriving at gate D1 and departing out of C5..In an effort to do my job and maintain schedule integrity, I guess I was in a hurry and I left it in the aircraft..it hasn't turned up in "lost and found" yet. I've had to order another one..at 80 bucks apiece, I'm not happy"!

 

[jetflier]

You know you can always stop in any airport news stand and buy a kids "pilot hat" and comply with the request to wear a hat! That should satisfy the "hat police"

 

[rajflyboy]

What do you guys expect? Half of your training department is on the "SCAB LIST" !!

and you guys don't do anything about it ???

WTF ???

 

[Adiabatic Pilot]

And we have 21 less people on 'the list' than you. Ya gotta get a firewall. Buh-Bye!

 

[c9skytrain]

Air Tran management is sure opening themselves to a legal mess that is going to be expensive down the road. Why can't southern companies get it through their thick skull that workers have the right to organize and lose the plantation mentality.

While I agree with the part about the legal mess the company will be in, I must point out Jet Blue and Virgin America are hardly southern companies.

 

[Kharma Police]

While I agree with the part about the legal mess the company will be in, I must point out Jet Blue and Virgin America are hardly southern companies.

Not sure what difference it makes if a company is based in the south. Are you talking about the lack of unionism in the region? The management team is mostly Yankee and Euro with work experience from northern based airlines. The HQ is in Florida, which most southerners don't consider (from an ideological and cultural standpoint) part of the south.

 

[tathagatha]

Save yo confederate moneh boys, the south is gonna rize agin

 

[JimmyKool]

Forklift Joe! You guys know that one? At least he's gone.

 

[c9skytrain]

Karhma, I was responding to a post by Captainzero1. look at previous posts.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Save yo confederate moneh boys, the south is gonna rize agin

It's only half time boys...

 

[Kharma Police]

Karhma, I was responding to a post by Captainzero1. look at previous posts.

Thanks, sorry about that!

 

[NEDude]

So just curious, if you are conducting informational picketing on your own dime, how can management decide what you are going to wear? Throw on a white shirt, tie and epauletes and give them the big middle finger - "sorry sir, this is not an Air Tran uniform, it is a shirt, tie and epaulets from an old flight instruction job I had, they just happen to have the same colors as Air Tran".

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Thats what we did for the first two events.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Air Tran management just made their jobs MUCH harder. The maneuver of suspending the MEC for any reason, much less one so petty as a policy violation (allegedly) is a blow below the belt... and one they will TRY to explain to a judge in the future.

The justification will not equal the action.

All I can say is that it's rookie hour at Air Tran HQ. A few more bad moves like that and management will basically be bargaining for the pilots.

Let them dig their hole guys!

 

[rajflyboy]

You guys still aren't serious?

After all. I was just on an Air Tran flight with two PIC's flying the new DC9 yesterday.

 

[njcapt]

You guys still aren't serious?

After all. I was just on an Air Tran flight with two PIC's flying the new DC9 yesterday.

Your trolling has become tiresome. Why don't you head back to Avsig and show the rubes how a "big deal airline pilot" acts.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Air Tran management just made their jobs MUCH harder. The maneuver of suspending the MEC for any reason, much less one so petty as a policy violation (allegedly) is a blow below the belt... and one they will TRY to explain to a judge in the future.

The justification will not equal the action.

All I can say is that it's rookie hour at Air Tran HQ. A few more bad moves like that and management will basically be bargaining for the pilots.

Let them dig their hole guys!

What does this suspension entail? Is it over after a specific period of time, or is it a precursor to stronger action later? Will there be a diciplinary hearing dealing with them as a group or individualy?

 

[WayBack]

No, but it's a clear violation of the RLA and clearly Hostile Work Environment lawsuit-worthy, although it'll be interesting to see if our MEC pulls the trigger on the lawsuits (been hoping they would for a while).

Both the MEC President and VP were on full-time buy anyway, they weren't on the line so don't suffer anything except having to get their records cleared eventually. They'll remain on full-time Flight Pay Loss in their union positions. The Sec/Treas will also be paid FPL for his time out.

What a mess...

ALPA MEC Not on the line? That's unheard of!!!!
Management wouldn't do something this extreme without talking to lawyers. I'm sure there is more to the story than what we're being told, but like ALPA, they only tell you half the truth.
Management knows ALPA is spineless and has no leverage today, so they pull this kind of BS. Just look at PCL, they're being forced into a crap contract handed to them by management and their MEC has done nothing about it.

 

[Lear70]

ALPA MEC Not on the line? That's unheard of!!!!
Management wouldn't do something this extreme without talking to lawyers. I'm sure there is more to the story than what we're being told, but like ALPA, they only tell you half the truth.
Management knows ALPA is spineless and has no leverage today, so they pull this kind of BS. Just look at PCL, they're being forced into a crap contract handed to them by management and their MEC has done nothing about it.

What do you expect with WFG involved at PCL? 'Nuff said, although I heard he's in the process of being recalled.

There are attorneys that are part of senior management. They don't have to "consult" anyone; they keep it all in-house.