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[Cpt. Underpants]

fv

No job is just about the $$$. Environment, management, flying hours, leave and contracts all play a part.

Hong Kong is far from perfect and DXB is perfect - from far. You clearly have a beef about CX and/or HKG - your choice. Would I live and work in DXB. No. PEK? No. TPE? No. But there are many who would, and that's their choice, it's just not for me, nor will it be.

I have travelled far and wide, spoken to many in this profession about who gets what and know, I suspect, a whole lot more about this business than you. Armchair quarterbacks and internet intellectuals* are a dime a dozen. I have helped dozens of guys with applications and facilitated many into a position with Cathay. I actually do put my money where my mouth is.

As for your "put up or shut up" statement - why? It's all out there, and has been posted ad nauseum by many. See that "search" thingy at the top, just right of centre?

Use it.

Post, insult, postulate as much as you wish. I really don't have time for you*.

 

[fareview]

fv

No job is just about the $$$. Environment, management, flying hours, leave and contracts all play a part.

Hong Kong is far from perfect and DXB is perfect - from far. You clearly have a beef about CX and/or HKG - your choice. Would I live and work in DXB. No. PEK? No. TPE? No. But there are many who would, and that's their choice, it's just not for me, nor will it be.

I have travelled far and wide, spoken to many in this profession about who gets what and know, I suspect, a whole lot more about this business than you. Armchair quarterbacks and internet intellectuals* are a dime a dozen. I have helped dozens of guys with applications and facilitated many into a position with Cathay. I actually do put my money where my mouth is.

As for your "put up or shut up" statement - why? It's all out there, and has been posted ad nauseum by many. See that "search" thingy at the top, just right of centre?

Use it.

Post, insult, postulate as much as you wish. I really don't have time for you*.

Capt A scaler

yawn

no numbers - no credibility.

You made a specific numerical claim and refuse to back it up because you know its wrong and you got called on it.

You went on to educate us on religious discrimination in the UAE yet you live in a country (the PRC) where the Pope could not openly name newly chosen cardinals/bishops for fear of 'political reprisals' (they had been kept in complete secrecy in the Vatican).

next

fareview

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Sorry where "captain" Mr. Ed goes I do not follow. Red Tails will understand.

 

[cmrflyer]

About a year and a half ago Ek gave pay raises, but only to locals.
EK is almost as bad as GF, and that is really sad.

 

[typhoonpilot]

Sorry where "captain" Mr. Ed goes I do not follow. Red Tails will understand.

More info on this statement please. I've received PMs from current NWA pilots that said he was a pretty good guy.

TP

 

[typhoonpilot]

About a year and a half ago Ek gave pay raises, but only to locals.
EK is almost as bad as GF, and that is really sad.

I'm not a local and I got an 8% raise last year. That was on top of the normal 3% increment.


In regards to the argument going on between fareview and Cpt. Underpants I'd have to say they are both correct. A CX A scale Captain probably makes 3 times what an EK Captain makes ( if you include housing ), but a new joiner at EK makes just over $60,000 first year ( not including housing ). I highly doubt a new joiner at Cathay is making $180,000.


TP

 

[coastinout]

Hey TP, thanks again for all the good info, and for not getting dragged down by some of the nitwits on this board. I always apprciate the info you post. Cheers!
Coastinout

 

[59vette]

Does a new hire at EK get a type rating on the equipment they fly?

 

[typhoonpilot]

Yes, they get an SIC type rating on a UAE Certificate. It's a paperwork exercise at the FSDO to transfer the SIC rating to your FAA certificate.

TP

 

[DL_Infidel]

fv,

I am leaving Delta Air Lines after 7 years of being employed there because I will do better at CX than at DL (or Emirates). If you're really intersted in CX payscales, why don't you contact them directly? Your attacks on CU are unwarranted and tell of your character or lack thereof. There are many resources at your disposal to seek the information you want...google is an amazing search engine. Try this link for starters. First year pay on the freighter in USD is $70K-$80K. No charge for me doing your homework for you.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/international/cathay-pacific-20051029178.htm

 

[Wolf King]

I wouldn't leave DL mainline for CX, unless you are furloughed. At least take a leave of absence from Delta, if you are at all able to do something like that. Pay is only a small piece of the puzzle, the grass isn't always greener, no matter how brown your own lawn may first appear!

 

[felixf16]

I wouldn't leave DL mainline for CX, unless you are furloughed. At least take a leave of absence from Delta, if you are at all able to do something like that. Pay is only a small piece of the puzzle, the grass isn't always greener, no matter how brown your own lawn may first appear!

Wolf,

DAL wouldn't grant me a leave. I tried that gambit before I eventually resigned last fall. The ATL chief pilot told me that my leave request had been denied because of the training events that would result. I have to suppose that simply by having me resign, no training would be required to backfill my slot. You just gotta love that Hooterville logic...

In talking with my buds that are still hanging on at Delta, I get the impression that the lawn -along with the house, cars, boats, and golf carts - has burned-up completely and that it's getting very tough to stay.

I think that Cathay has a lot to offer someone who wants to keep flying. Furthermore, the work rules and environment at "good" foreign carriers might be light years ahead of what the US majors have degenerated to. Flying international freight would hold much greater appeal for me than did 5-leg MD-88 days, which invariably include an ATL "airport appreciation" and eight hours at the BHM airport Holiday Inn.

I've been gone six months and am happier, healthier, and am enjoying life with my family more now outside of aviation than I ever did while flying. And I have, by far, the greenest lawn in my neighborhood.

Cheers, and best to all.

Felix

22 years of professional flying now mortgaged for my dreamshot - law school...