Emirates Open Day in the States

[typhoonpilot]

I am a little short on the jet time requirement but I would like to go here about the airline for future reference. Just curious if they would welcome somebody to the open house not ready for an interview. If yes, would it be appropriate to show up in business casual since I don’t have a suit lying around the crash pad? - Thanks

Yes, and yes ( although I would bet most people have at least a sport coat ).


TP

 

[X man]

Emirates Open day(Seahawker01)

Never give up, a NO won't kill you, the more No's you get, the closer your getting to a big fat YES. Personality and enthusiasm(did I spell that right), make up for experience in many situations.

 

[Seahawker01]

Thanks

Never give up, a NO won't kill you, the more No's you get, the closer your getting to a big fat YES. Personality and enthusiasm(did I spell that right), make up for experience in many situations.

Good point and than you for the replies.
Cheers

 

[Brown Cow]

Typhoonpilot:

If only everyone could post as informatively as you, this forum would be alot better. Anyways, I was in Dubai a week ago and noticed something which I hadn't realized before. Dubai is a place only for millionaires. I have never felt like such a small fish in a big pond before. It seems the only people who count are those with a minimum of $20 million. We stay at the Fairmont and there are at any given time upwards of $3 million in cars sitting outside. Walking about a mile or so down the street by the Fairmont I saw 5 Maybachs, more than I have seen in the US in total. Even the eastern European whores (a population of 2 million or there abouts it seems) don't care about you unless there's a huge wad in your back pocket.

Bottom line.........nowhere, and I mean nowhere in the world have a felt so out of place. The 250k our captains make is interest on most accounts in Dubai. Even the F1 race I saw 4 years ago in Monaco oozed less oppulence than your fair city.

I know, "so what's your point????" How is anyone, ever, supposed to feel comfortable in Dubai?"

Cheers, BC

 

[pookie]

Brown,

I also join your sentiments. No where in the world did i feel poorer and treated so badly. There seems to be a racial hierarchy in dubai that i never found in the most southern states. I felt like the arabs treated people differently based on social status. I remember standing in line at a KFC and this emirati cuts in front of all the indians and asians and when i spoke up,..he turned around and just spoke in a real demeaning way like i was under neath him.

I will never get used to the type of culture and racism that i saw there. I treat everyone fairly with the same respect regardless of religion or color of one's skin but i felt like i never was given the same respect.

Even the russian girls there would not approach you unless you had some kind of cash!

 

[typhoonpilot]

Typhoonpilot:

If only everyone could post as informatively as you, this forum would be alot better. Anyways, I was in Dubai a week ago and noticed something which I hadn't realized before. Dubai is a place only for millionaires. I have never felt like such a small fish in a big pond before. It seems the only people who count are those with a minimum of $20 million. We stay at the Fairmont and there are at any given time upwards of $3 million in cars sitting outside. Walking about a mile or so down the street by the Fairmont I saw 5 Maybachs, more than I have seen in the US in total. Even the eastern European whores (a population of 2 million or there abouts it seems) don't care about you unless there's a huge wad in your back pocket.

Bottom line.........nowhere, and I mean nowhere in the world have a felt so out of place. The 250k our captains make is interest on most accounts in Dubai. Even the F1 race I saw 4 years ago in Monaco oozed less oppulence than your fair city.

I know, "so what's your point????" How is anyone, ever, supposed to feel comfortable in Dubai?"

Cheers, BC

There are certainly a lot of very rich people in Dubai. The opportunity to make money in Dubai is like no other place in the world right now. It is a boomtown and if a person has the right idea and the right talents they can very easily become a multi-millionaire. Too bad I've never been entreprenurial .

Honestly, I don't travel in the tourist or visitor circles very much. My one experience of going to a 5 star resort for a weekend getaway was very nice and it appeared all guests were treated the same. There is a much higher level of service in certain areas, even for us lowely middle class workers.

The neighborhood I live in is very middle class. As are the places we shop and eat. Those tend to be the circles I travel in. Occasionally we'll go on excursions into Satwa, Karama, and Bur Dubai where we are seen as the ultra wealthy by comparison. Those neighborhoods are much lower income level than ours. I get my haircut in Satwa from a Pakistani barber. He does a very nice job and it only costs $5.40. I can then go around the corner and buy 3 chicken shawarmas for about $3.00, more than enough for a meal.


Pookie:

I hear you. That can be very annoying. You can either let it get to you or just realize that there are people here with no manners whatsoever. For what it's worth, I say something when it happens as well. More accurately I'll try to anticipate it happening and give a nasty look to the offender so keep them in place. On more than one occasion I've had the clerk tell the guy I was there first and to wait your turn.


What's up with you guys and the Russian/eastern European girls ? I've never seen any of them around Dubai .


Typhoonpilot

 

[pookie]

typhoonpilot,

Thanks for the replies. I am surprised that you have not seen all the russian girls in dubai. You have to go to the area where the radisson is. I think its around all the hotels where there are numbers on the sides of buildings. You can not miss the russian girls walking around looking for a nice chap to spend a quite evening with.

Do not get me wrong, i had a nice time there but the social hierarchy set me off and hopefully they realize that treating people fairly benifits the whole community. I also got a haircut for $5 by a pakistani person there and i would never forget how they massage the scalp after its all over. The shwarmas near the gold sook (sp??) are the best. Made many good friends there and i even went out with a local arab girl while i was there.

I had no idea about the job fair but insha-allah i get a chance next year.

peace in da midda east.

pookie

 

[Going2Baja]

What is DEC and what is the chance for a US pilot to get hired? How many Yanks currently working? ANd TP are you an X-pat and if so how do you find living in Dubai?

Baja.

 

[On Your Six]

People should also be referring to www.PPRune.org and look at the Middle East forum for more info on Emirates if it hasn't been stated here already. From what I can tell, you get to fly big iron but you essentially have no rights and you can be trampled on at any time. There are positives and negatives at all airlines, but Emirates appears to have many negatives that won't likely be fixed for quite some time... Check out pprune and read for yourself.

Sorry if this has already been covered.

 

[filejw]

DEC -Direct Entry Captain.And does that cause some hard feelings.But it is a foreign country and they can do as they please.I was asked in 1988 or so if I would like to join them on the 727 as as a DEC so nobody should be surprised they still do it when it suits them.You need 10000 plus hrs and 3000 pic jet transport and some wide body experience to qualify.I think they are looking for people on the 777.

 

[typhoonpilot]

What is DEC and what is the chance for a US pilot to get hired? How many Yanks currently working? ANd TP are you an X-pat and if so how do you find living in Dubai?

Baja.

Filejw covered the DEC thing. There are currently 48 U.S. pilots at EK. EK are actively recruiting U.S. pilots and that number will go over 100 by the end of next year, if not sooner.

On Your Six says to look at PPrune, which all should do, but keep in mind that it is mostly non-Americans posting on there and their perspective is different. If a person does their homework and comes to EK with realistic expectations of flying for EK and living in Dubai then they are generally content. There are some legitimate complaints from the posters on Prune, the two biggest of which are already known factors for somebody making a decision to join today. They are: the hiring of DECs and the change to our pay rules over one year ago.

Anybody entertaining the idea of becoming an expat needs to realize that you have no union protections whatsoever and are completely on your own when you go fly overseas. Companies can and do change conditions as it suits them, with no recourse for you.

EK shouldn't be a first choice of airlines to go to work for, especially for somebody who is young and has many years of flying ahead of them. It is, however, an alternative that is worth exploring. It works best for pilots furloughed from majors or who worked for airlines that have ceased to exist.


Typhoonpilot

P.S. EK recruitment will be at the AeroService job fair in Miami on April 22nd.

 

[bman]

Ukrainian Snapper!!!!

There are certainly a lot of very rich people in Dubai. The opportunity to make money in Dubai is like no other place in the world right now. It is a boomtown and if a person has the right idea and the right talents they can very easily become a multi-millionaire. Too bad I've never been entreprenurial .

Honestly, I don't travel in the tourist or visitor circles very much. My one experience of going to a 5 star resort for a weekend getaway was very nice and it appeared all guests were treated the same. There is a much higher level of service in certain areas, even for us lowely middle class workers.

The neighborhood I live in is very middle class. As are the places we shop and eat. Those tend to be the circles I travel in. Occasionally we'll go on excursions into Satwa, Karama, and Bur Dubai where we are seen as the ultra wealthy by comparison. Those neighborhoods are much lower income level than ours. I get my haircut in Satwa from a Pakistani barber. He does a very nice job and it only costs $5.40. I can then go around the corner and buy 3 chicken shawarmas for about $3.00, more than enough for a meal.


Pookie:

I hear you. That can be very annoying. You can either let it get to you or just realize that there are people here with no manners whatsoever. For what it's worth, I say something when it happens as well. More accurately I'll try to anticipate it happening and give a nasty look to the offender so keep them in place. On more than one occasion I've had the clerk tell the guy I was there first and to wait your turn.


What's up with you guys and the Russian/eastern European girls ? I've never seen any of them around Dubai .


Typhoonpilot

Hey guy,
I thought by your handle you were a CX HKG guy?! Anyhow I think dubai is kinda like Vegas for Europeans. Its all about the bling, but most of what you see is done on credit.

As for the racism line well can't say that I've really experienced that much. Being brown working to my advantage for once let's call it active camo!!!

For anyone considering Dubai and Emirates (I don't work for them or live there although we fly their colors and it feels like I never leave) Here's my observations:
Dubai is what you make it. If you like the beach, bars, night clubs and a generally fast high end lifestyle you can have all of it. Where else are you gonna go and actually have the smallest thing you fly being an A330. If you are single man go live fast play hard, but realize you'll be wearing platinum handcuffs.

PS
Watchout for the Ukrainian Snapper! Its a meaty white fish that can be addictive to some.

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

Where else are you gonna go and actually have the smallest thing you fly being an A330.

Um...Cathay Pacific? (For three times the salary)

Watchout for the Ukrainian Snapper! Its a meaty white fish that can be addictive to some.

Amen to that Bro!

 

[330 man]

81Horse says,

"Really? Can you prove me wrong? And why should the company be free from criticism? If I am wrong, I'd be very pleased to know it."

I can prove you wrong. We have 5 pilots of the Jewish faith that I know of, (1 from South Africa, 1 from Austrailia and 3 from eastern Europe) and we have one female cadet in training. We did have another famale that was in the works a few years ago but she went to another job in the gulf.

Emirates does not have any problems with jews. It is a political problem with Isreal. If you are jewish you have just as good a chance as anyone else of getting hired. If you are from Isreal, forget it! Hopefully the female cadet will be the first of many.

Regards,

330 Man

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

I really would love to have the address of a synagogue in DXB so that I can worship when I am next in town on Shabbat. Can you help?

 

[docholiday]

It's been a big shift for them to go for RJ drivers now that the 737/A320 pool of pilots has dried up.



Bro..please. Whether you fly an RJ or a guppy, we all know it's the same job. A jet is a jet period.

 

[81Horse]

330 man, thank you for the information. Though I was being a smartass (as usual) in my earlier posts, I am pleased to know things are not as I assumed.

 

[typhoonpilot]

It's been a big shift for them to go for RJ drivers now that the 737/A320 pool of pilots has dried up.



Bro..please. Whether you fly an RJ or a guppy, we all know it's the same job. A jet is a jet period.

Doc:

You need to read a few more of my posts before you start in on this subject like a fool. The point that I was making with the above statement is that EK only hired pilots who had flown something in the 737 or Airbus class up until very recently. For two years I tried to help a friend who was an RJ check airman get an interview. We even walked into the recruiting managers office one day for a sit down chat. It was not possible because there was a policy not to hire people who had only flown RJ or smaller aircraft. Within a few months of him getting typed on the A320 he had an interview and is now here as an A330 F.O.

I actively talked to people in recruiting to get them to look at RJ drivers and I have been saying for a few years that the time would come that the policy would change. So my comment that you have taken offense at indicates the culmination of that effort, not a slight on RJ drivers.


Typhoonpilot

 

[fareview]

I really would love to have the address of a synagogue in DXB so that I can worship when I am next in town on Shabbat. Can you help?

I really would love to have the address of a synagogue in DXB so that I can worship when I am next in town on Shabbat. Can you help?

Cpl Panties.

Nothing like a man working for a Chinese Govt company casting aspersions on the rights of a certain religious sect in another country – sad.

I really would love to have the address of some opposition democracy parties in Beijing so that I can join when I am next in town on ‘Voters Rights Day’. Can you help?

It is clear by your loaded questions you are an EK sceptic, yet you live in a country run by communists. And before you try to differentiate HK from the mainland – trust me when the Peoples Red Army entered the Fragrant Harbour before the handover (pathetic) – the British empire was confirmed dead.

The difference between China and the UAE is this –

A couple of weeks ago the workers on the Burj Tower Dubai (the worlds tallest tower) revolted against their conditions – the result was the granting by the Maktoum family the creation of unions in the UAE.

Perhaps they should have taken Deng’s approach and sent in the tanks.

Before you cast stones little fellow read the universally acclaimed ‘MAO’ by Chung and Halliday.

C.U. move on before you get manhandled.

fareview

 

[fareview]

Um...Cathay Pacific? (For three times the salary)



Amen to that Bro!

3 x the salary.

Post the numbers so we can all verify.

fv