Emirates Interview

[av8tordude23]

Not sure if any regional pilot without experience greater than an ERJ145 or CJ200, but I have 8000+ 1300 PIC jet I was email this...

Dear [Name removed],
Thank you for your email as well as your interest in Emirates. Although we are conducting pre-selections in Atlanta later this month, we are giving precedence to those with experience on multi-engine jet aircraft with a MTOW in excess of 30 tonnes. I do invite you to submit an on-line application on www.ekpilot.com as we do review our hiring criteria from time to time.
Yours sincerely,

Richard Cyr
Captain
Flight Crew Resourcing Specialist
Ph +9714 708 2637
Fax + 9714 286 4108

 

[SonicPig]

Varmit and Overseas,

I stand corrected. Shows how closely I read EK emails.
I still think a Turboprop guy with a couple thousand hours in the left seat of a 121 operation can make the transition over here.

Corrected again, "Oh I see"
The Pig

 

[Varmint]

Thank you for your email as well as your interest in Emirates. Although we are conducting pre-selections in Atlanta later this month, we are giving precedence to those with experience on multi-engine jet aircraft with a MTOW in excess of 30 tonnes. I do invite you to submit an on-line application on www.ekpilot.com as we do review our hiring criteria from time to time.

I think it sounds good. They will run through the 30T guys first and then give out the available slots to the rest. At least it didn't say "sorry you don't meet our requirements".

 

[Varmint]

Varmit and Overseas,
Corrected again, "Oh I see"
The Pig

LOL. That's 2nd most used standard callout. I use it almost as much as "checked".

 

[Alltheway]

never mind

 

[fareview]

Ladies & Gents,

As mentioned many times, EK is not for everyone.

Some guys just cant make it work others know how make the system work for them.

A330/340 is a different gig. I wouldn't rec EK to anyone that wasn't highly adaptive, tolerant and flexible...but if you are, then this may be the place for you.

But whatever you do dont listen to posters who have 'passed through DXB' and are now experts on life at EK....they are not.

fv
(still happy here)

 

[Flyer1015]

30-ton rule is alive and well. I found out the hard way.

 

[fareview]

EK will not park airplanes.

A deep pool for them is the E-145 & CR2 guys, that they haven't gone there yet tells you they are still getting enough from the various sources. From what I understand many at FR (52 invites from the London session)are coming to DXB for one day turbo assessments as FR mgt continues to prohibit enough time off to go to DXb as well as being difficult in signing log books, recs etc.

The other interesting source is Qantas FO's (see pprune). It could be up to 120.

HR have the light RJ guys as a backup, once that is exhausted (would take a while) their final line of defense is SO's.

Stay tuned and be patient, planes are coming at 2.5 per month since May and set to continue for years.

Good luck to all,

fv

 

[Regional4life]

The Qantas FO rumor is false.

 

[Kenny]

The Qantas FO rumor is false.

Actually, it's not. Saw the email QF mgt sent out, from a buddy of mine at QF.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Kenny is correct and this is not the first time that Qantas offers leave to their pilots and coordinates preferential interviews and such, they have done it in the past with ANA and with EK also a few years back I think, I don't think there will be many takers since there are opportunities right now in S. E. Asia that are more commutable for them (no time zone changes and daily flights to OZ) I suspect the numbers will be very low, if any.

 

[Varmint]

Kenny is correct and this is not the first time that Qantas offers leave to their pilots and coordinates preferential interviews and such, they have done it in the past with ANA and with EK also a few years back I think, I don't think there will be many takers since there are opportunities right now in S. E. Asia that are more commutable for them (no time zone changes and daily flights to OZ) I suspect the numbers will be very low, if any.

I am now hearing that EK mgmt retracted the Q offer and it no longer exists. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[uba757]

I am now hearing that EK mgmt retracted the Q offer and it no longer exists. Can anyone confirm this?

Did a trip with an instructor a couple of days back and he confirmed EK pulled the plug on the deal. He said that the Qantas CEO made some comment on some TV show and EK then pulled the plug.

 

[fareview]

Word in DXB is along with media comment from QF mgt, the internal email to their pilots suggested EK approached QF when in fact it was the other way around. After that was published EK said enough with the rubbish and shut it down.'

fv

 

[jim718181]

Any truth to the rumor, they will interview and hire without the atp and you just need to get it before class?

 

[AGVMIA]

The 30T requirement is complete and utter BS!! Tell me how a guy with 8000+ hours (all corporate jets), 5 jet type ratings, almost all jet PIC, almost all glass cockpit, state of the art cockpit, going into all different types of airports, short fields, mountain airports, large airports, international flying, crossing the pond, have to do own performance calculations/considerations, etc, is less qualified to fly a 777 than a guy who maybe has half the time but in a 737, A330 or something similar, going to the same airports all the time, has no clue about performance considerations, and basically is a robot of the airline? When we were hiring throughout the 2000's I used to get guys from the airlines (both in the sim and IOE) and boy were most completely full of sh.. and had no idea how to "legally" get out of a mountain airport because they were always handed everything!!

Yeah I can see how the guy who has the same amount of flight time as me except everything handed in a silver platter is more qualified than me to be a 777 F/O. Yup, very clear.

 

[Dumbluck]

your argument is the reason...They want guys who fit the mold. Also, Flight Saftey type rides are pretty lax compard to airline training standards. Its more about following procedure than using your own head. The last thing most international places want is someone who can think for themselves. Captain is always right, even into the side of a mountain

 

[AGVMIA]

your argument is the reason...They want guys who fit the mold. Also, Flight Saftey type rides are pretty lax compard to airline training standards. Its more about following procedure than using your own head. The last thing most international places want is someone who can think for themselves. Captain is always right, even into the side of a mountain

I've had several airline check rides as well, so that statement is not true...

However, the argument about following the system, not thinking for yourself, the Captain is always right, fitting the mold, dead on. Sad, but true.

That is why they prefer a 250 hour TT kid they trained from scratch, who knows only their ways, who will fly the airplane into the mountain, stall the airplane because he can only read the instrument and only react to what he knows, etc. The international recruiting airlines basically want monkeys who can follow directions. So you are completely correct in this sense!!

 

[typhoonpilot]

The 30T requirement is complete and utter BS!! Tell me how a guy with 8000+ hours (all corporate jets), 5 jet type ratings, almost all jet PIC, almost all glass cockpit, state of the art cockpit, going into all different types of airports, short fields, mountain airports, large airports, international flying, crossing the pond, have to do own performance calculations/considerations, etc, is less qualified to fly a 777 than a guy who maybe has half the time but in a 737, A330 or something similar, going to the same airports all the time, has no clue about performance considerations, and basically is a robot of the airline? When we were hiring throughout the 2000's I used to get guys from the airlines (both in the sim and IOE) and boy were most completely full of sh.. and had no idea how to "legally" get out of a mountain airport because they were always handed everything!!

Yeah I can see how the guy who has the same amount of flight time as me except everything handed in a silver platter is more qualified than me to be a 777 F/O. Yup, very clear.

I agree completely about the 30 tonne requirement. Arbitrary numbers like that never make sense.

Might go easier on airline pilots though. You are referencing U.S. airlines in general. Many U.S. airline pilots come from a corporate or regional pilot background. Others come from the military. I wouldn't call them inexperienced in the least. True they have it easier in that they get a lot more support than a corporate pilot. After awhile they will forget a lot of that early stuff like how to get a clearance at an uncontrolled field.

Pilots know what they need to know. Most can be taught or learn from experience.

The pilots at EK do there own takeoff performance calculations. They must be knowledgeable on international procedures to a greater extent than most airline pilots since they operate to just about every corner of the world. The ones that can't think for themselves will fail upgrade.

I would love to see EK start hiring corporate pilots or military pilots with no airline time. What I wouldn't want to see though is a know it all who typecasts all pilots based on their present position; thinks he is better than airline pilots; and has nothing to learn.



Typhoonpilot

 

[Sgt. Hartman]

I agree completely about the 30 tonne requirement. Arbitrary numbers like that never make sense.

Might go easier on airline pilots though. You are referencing U.S. airlines in general. Many U.S. airline pilots come from a corporate or regional pilot background. Others come from the military. I wouldn't call them inexperienced in the least. True they have it easier in that they get a lot more support than a corporate pilot. After awhile they will forget a lot of that early stuff like how to get a clearance at an uncontrolled field.

Pilots know what they need to know. Most can be taught or learn from experience.

The pilots at EK do there own takeoff performance calculations. They must be knowledgeable on international procedures to a greater extent than most airline pilots since they operate to just about every corner of the world. The ones that can't think for themselves will fail upgrade.

I would love to see EK start hiring corporate pilots or military pilots with no airline time. What I wouldn't want to see though is a know it all who typecasts all pilots based on their present position; thinks he is better than airline pilots; and has nothing to learn.



Typhoonpilot

The 30T requirement is complete and utter BS!! Tell me how a guy with 8000+ hours (all corporate jets), 5 jet type ratings, almost all jet PIC, almost all glass cockpit, state of the art cockpit, going into all different types of airports, short fields, mountain airports, large airports, international flying, crossing the pond, have to do own performance calculations/considerations, etc, is less qualified to fly a 777 than a guy who maybe has half the time but in a 737, A330 or something similar, going to the same airports all the time, has no clue about performance considerations, and basically is a robot of the airline? When we were hiring throughout the 2000's I used to get guys from the airlines (both in the sim and IOE) and boy were most completely full of sh.. and had no idea how to "legally" get out of a mountain airport because they were always handed everything!!

Yeah I can see how the guy who has the same amount of flight time as me except everything handed in a silver platter is more qualified than me to be a 777 F/O. Yup, very clear.

I'd have to agree with TP's assessment. Only I would have said it like this..."dude, you have no idea what you're talking about". Anyone with an CPL can calculate performance...just because you open the QRH more than airline pilots do doesn't make you special.