Embry Riddle students

[DrewBlows]

It's astounding how those who degrade how things are done at Emry Riddle are quick to point out how much better their way of doing things is.

Generally speaking "unorthodox methods" and "thinking outside the box" are frowned upon in the 121 environment. If you don't believe me, try your own methods on your next PC or LOE. Let us know how it goes. Perhaps Riddle has something going down there.

 

[highsky]

There are examples of good and bad pilots that come out of any flying program out there, including ERAU.

I've met hundreds from ERAU. Yes, there are a few cases of immature tools, but the vast majority are professional, humble aviators.

Particularly for those of you who haven't stepped foot on a Riddle campus, who are you to judge? By bashing Riddle, are you saying that your background, life choices, and aeronautical prowess is superior? Who's the arrogant tool now? It's hypocritical, and quite frankly it reeks of penis envy.

Grow up, and get over it.

 

[WestHouston]

There are examples of good and bad pilots that come out of any flying program out there, including ERAU.

I've met hundreds from ERAU. Yes, there are a few cases of immature tools, but the vast majority are professional, humble aviators.

Particularly for those of you who haven't stepped foot on a Riddle campus, who are you to judge? By bashing Riddle, are you saying that you're background, life choices, and aeronautical prowess is superior? Who's the arrogant tool now? It's hypocritical, and quite frankly it reeks of penis envy.

Grow up, and get over it.

I don't think I have penis envy of a kid in torn up jeans and Luke Duke hair under his sideways baseball cap thats scared of steam gauges. And arrogance? I guess that came when you got your "ass master" rating...

 

[highsky]

And arrogance? I guess that came when you got your "ass master" rating...

No, my friend. The ladies gave me that rating.

 

[say again]

No, my friend. The ladies gave me that rating.

Was she wearing a strap-on???:laugh::beer:

 

[say again]

Thanks for making my point.

Exactly!!:beer:

 

[highsky]

WestHouston,

I suspect your problem is as follows:

As an enlisted man in the military, you developed resentment of many of the officer aviators. Some of those guys are particularly arrogant, and abuse power. Those types make a huge bad impression on the Enlisted. I know; I've seen many military prick pilots. They're people you never forget. (I've seen mostly very good officer aviators though).

For whatever reason, you're not a military pilot. Perhaps by choice, or perhaps because you had no choice. Doesn't matter.

You've always loved airplanes; I can't blame you for that. You've long aspired to fly for a living. So, you decided to pursue it as a civilian, because for whatever reason, you couldn't do it in the military. I doubt that you had much choice, because no sane person would choose the life of a "CFI at a lowly FBO," over a well-paid military pilot flying state-of-the-art equipment.

Then, much to your dismay, you discovered a "perceived" hierarchy in civilian aviation, much like the military. You tried to escape the inequities of the military, only to find yourself in a similar situation of civilian inequity, only with much less pay and QOL. This hierarchy, however, exists solely in your head, due to your own feelings of inadequacies. Unlike the rare ERAU tool that you love to showcase, most ERAU grads are humble professionals, and don't consider themselves better than others. I've met many, many more than you have Pal.

So now, in your world, you gain solace in degrading others who have done the best they could in life to make good education decisions that are good for them. This doesn't make them the tool; it makes YOU the tool. Be proud of your own decisions and abilities. Subconsciously, you obviously are not. Moreover, don't resent a guy for going to ERAU. It's a damn good school. Otherwise, in the end, you just end up looking like a bitter child.

Good luck with your career.

Sincerely,

Dr. Phil

 

[WestHouston]

WestHouston,

I suspect your problem is as follows:

As an enlisted man in the military, you developed resentment of many of the officer aviators. Some of those guys are particularly arrogant, and abuse power. Those types make a huge bad impression on the Enlisted. I know; I've seen many military prick pilots. They're people you never forget. (I've seen mostly very good officer aviators though).

For whatever reason, you're not a military pilot. Perhaps by choice, or perhaps because you had no choice. Doesn't matter.

You've always loved airplanes; I can't blame you for that. You've long aspired to fly for a living. So, you decided to pursue it as a civilian, because for whatever reason, you couldn't do it in the military. I doubt that you had much choice, because no sane person would choose the life of a "CFI at a lowly FBO," over a well-paid military pilot flying state-of-the-art equipment.

Then, much to your dismay, you discovered a "perceived" hierarchy in civilian aviation, much like the military. You tried to escape the inequities of the military, only to find yourself in a similar situation of civilian inequity, only with much less pay and QOL. This hierarchy, however, exists solely in your head, due to your own feelings of inadequacies. Unlike the rare ERAU tool that you love to showcase, most ERAU grads are humble professionals, and don't consider themselves better than others. I've met many, many more than you have Pal.

So now, in your world, you gain solace in degrading others who have done the best they could in life to make good education decisions that are good for them. This doesn't make them the tool; it makes YOU the tool. Be proud of your own decisions and abilities. Subconsciously, you obviously are not. Moreover, don't resent a guy for going to ERAU. It's a damn good school. Otherwise, in the end, you just end up looking like a bitter child.

Good luck with your career.

Sincerely,

Dr. Phil

Nice try doc. But like I said previously, I don't envy anyone that tells me they went to the "harvard" of flight schools but cant shoot an NDB approach.

And your little analogy of my "bitterness" towards officers and/or military pilots is ridiculous at best. The choices I've made in life are mine and I've done everything I have set out to do in it. I was in the Coast Guard and was a boarding officer and a coxswain which I joined specifically to be. I left after my enlistment as I entended to even with an offer to OCS. I decided to be a pilot six months before I separated and used my benefits to pay for my ratings. I'm a flight instructor at an FBO because I choose to be. This is where I plan on paying my dues and drilling holes in the sky in ratty 152's with Indian students until I can move up.

You see, I went to a flight school that prided themselves on being "the best" and the "key to the air lines" and all the other slick brochure koolaid sales pitches. I chose a mom and pop FBO because I think it makes me and my students better pilots. I'm not afraid of crosswinds past the "demonstrated" ones in the POH. I know that really dirty mags are no big deal. And that I don't need shiny paint and a pretty color GPS to babysit me so I know I don't bust class B airspace.

So, again, nice monologue but I did choose life at a lowly FBO over being well paid and flying million dollar aircraft. So I guess I'm insane.

I'm sure most ERAU guys are fine. It's just the one I've met doesn't represent your fine Ivy League flight school very well. Perhaps you should have realized that when you read my question, I was venting about a dewsh and not taken it so personally.

Maybe you resent poor people that get thier time at little flight schools, flying junky aircraft yet get the same jobs as you? That can't be fair, right? All that extra money should have bought you something right?

Then again, I'm not Dr. Phil.

 

[A Squared]

WestHouston,

I suspect your problem is as follows:

As an enlisted man in the military, you developed resentment of many of the officer aviators. Some of those guys are particularly arrogant, and abuse power. Those types make a huge bad impression on the Enlisted. I know; I've seen many military prick pilots. They're people you never forget. (I've seen mostly very good officer aviators though).

For whatever reason, you're not a military pilot. Perhaps by choice, or perhaps because you had no choice. Doesn't matter.

You've always loved airplanes; I can't blame you for that. You've long aspired to fly for a living. So, you decided to pursue it as a civilian, because for whatever reason, you couldn't do it in the military. I doubt that you had much choice, because no sane person would choose the life of a "CFI at a lowly FBO," over a well-paid military pilot flying state-of-the-art equipment.

Then, much to your dismay, you discovered a "perceived" hierarchy in civilian aviation, much like the military. You tried to escape the inequities of the military, only to find yourself in a similar situation of civilian inequity, only with much less pay and QOL. This hierarchy, however, exists solely in your head, due to your own feelings of inadequacies. Unlike the rare ERAU tool that you love to showcase, most ERAU grads are humble professionals, and don't consider themselves better than others. I've met many, many more than you have Pal.

So now, in your world, you gain solace in degrading others who have done the best they could in life to make good education decisions that are good for them. This doesn't make them the tool; it makes YOU the tool. Be proud of your own decisions and abilities. Subconsciously, you obviously are not. Moreover, don't resent a guy for going to ERAU. It's a damn good school. Otherwise, in the end, you just end up looking like a bitter child.

Good luck with your career.

Sincerely,

Dr. Phil

And this sneering, condescending twaddle is a prime example of *EXACTLY* why the majority of well adjusted pilots despise riddle rats.

 

[avbug]

I don't think I have penis envy of a kid in torn up jeans and Luke Duke hair under his sideways baseball cap thats scared of steam gauges. And arrogance? I guess that came when you got your "ass master" rating...

Aaah. We have an intellectual in our midst.

Report back when you turn 14. Presently you need to grow up a little.

 

[WGP guy]

I'll be going to Riddle next year for engineering (got really good $$$ to fund it). My CFI seems to share the same sentiments that most of you have, and from what I have seen it is true. I'm training for my IR right now, hopefully I'll be a CFI before too long. I've often thought about teaching at Riddle, and teaching them the way I learned, pilotage & VORs, no GPS allowed. I would probably get fired very quickly.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

Highsky is the classic ERAU graduate that gives the school a bad name. I know ERAU graduates are not all like him. Thank God. He just wants to justify all the money he paid for a standard aviation education. The same as he could have obtained at so many other schools and FBO's but at half the price.

Highsky is obviously very impressed with himself, especially his military job. Well that only says what a waste his high priced ERAU education was. He has now just been trained in the military on all the same things he had already paid for once before. His education was a waste because the military taught from basic to his wings as though he knew almost nothing anyway. Plus he's stuck in that job for at least 12 years. I admire his interest in serving our country but ERAU is not a perquisite for military service. He just didn't need a high priced ERAU education to get where he is now. He would have been better of to study business or accounting or engineering or computer something unless he was so weak that he needed the prior flight training to help him get through flight training. Lots of people get through military flight training and have no prior training at all, except for the pertaining that the military provides.

I'm sure that a Dr. Phil would have a field day with HighSky. He has no idea of how far he will fall in life. Dr. Phil would say that all his problems will be personal issues, especially with women and family. (Just look at his bio) Those kinds of problems are the worst kind. And professionally, he'll be flying solo for the rest of his life because his f/o's won't help him. He doesn't think he needs help and besides nobody can help Highsky, he knows it all. He'll never take the advice of a lowly dispatcher, or f/o certainly not a f/a about anything. Again, he know it all that is apparent.

 

[JAFI]

Did you ever wonder.....

If (Some at Riddle) say they are the Harvard of Aviation...

At Harvard, do they say they are the Riddle of Medicine, Law, Science, Education, etc..........?


Yes, I'm kidding....

I really feel sorry for the graduates who went to Riddle, got the education but not the "better than thou" attitude. I have flown with quite a few Riddle graduates that never mentioned Rittle and were very good pilots.

For the childish name calling in some of the posts here .... Both Riddle and non Riddle people are guilty. Shame on you.

JAFI

 

[TWA]

I know it's not Riddle, but we had a guy that was at Delta Connection come over to our FBO last week. The program is going away, so he decided to switch to us. When the instructor took a look at his log book, he had 52 hours, an had not yet soloed! In that 52 hours was all of his night, hood time, and dual cross countries. The instructor said he was a pretty good pilot and I think soloed him during his second lesson with us. What's up with Delta Connection??? Are their CFIs just trying to load up on the dual?

 

[Princedietrich]

In a word? Yes.

The aircraft used by that particular Delta Academy facility were pieces of flying garbage too. A friend of mine was flying their Arrow a while back and has the elevator cable bind up on him DURING THE FLARE. I was taking their Seminole up for a jaunt, and when trying to start the engines the primer pump knob CAME OFF IN MY HAND. That thing had 14.8k hours on the airframe. Aren't those things life limited to 15k before they get scrapped?

 

[avbug]

That thing had 14.8k hours on the airframe. Aren't those things life limited to 15k before they get scrapped?

The Type Certificate Data Sheet (the governing document for an airplane; think of it as the aircraft's birth certificate) for the PA-44-180 and the PA-44-180T lists the airframe life limitation at 14,663 hours for the wing and associated structure.

 

[svcta]

Aaah. We have an intellectual in our midst.

Report back when you turn 14. Presently you need to grow up a little.

Just to clarify, it was highsky that told westhouston that he had penis envy, and highsky's bio says that he's an assmaster. WestH didn't say anything childish that hadn't already been said to him.

And now back to the action....I need a telestrator.

 

[avbug]

Hi-sky is right in the same boat. Arrogant and sounds very young...needs to do some growing up.

 

[Princedietrich]

The Type Certificate Data Sheet (the governing document for an airplane; think of it as the aircraft's birth certificate) for the PA-44-180 and the PA-44-180T lists the airframe life limitation at 14,663 hours for the wing and associated structure.

Wow, I'd be able to sleep a lot better if I hadn't just learned that. But at least that DCA facility is now boarded up.

 

[RedGuy]

Unfortunately both the Riddle pilots I've flown with fit the stereo type to a tee. More confidence than ability. My latest Riddle co-pilot has a tendency to really tick me off. If you don't do something the way he wants he throws a temper tantrum. While I'm sitting in the left seat thinking, WTF is wrong with this kid? It's not that he's any better or worse of a pilot than any of the other 200-300hr co-pilots I've had, it's that he has the attitude that he's a better pilot. He needs to realize that even though I'm not a superior aviator since I didn't go to Embry Riddle, I've been around the block a few times and he needs to accept and respect my experienced decisions. But hey what do I know, I've only got about 20 times the experience he does.