I'll be going to Riddle next year for engineering (got really good $$$ to fund it). My CFI seems to share the same sentiments that most of you have, and from what I have seen it is true. I'm training for my IR right now, hopefully I'll be a CFI before too long. I've often thought about teaching at Riddle, and teaching them the way I learned, pilotage & VORs, no GPS allowed. I would probably get fired very quickly.
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Highsky is the classic ERAU graduate that gives the school a bad name. I know ERAU graduates are not all like him. Thank God. He just wants to justify all the money he paid for a standard aviation education. The same as he could have obtained at so many other schools and FBO's but at half the price.
Highsky is obviously very impressed with himself, especially his military job. Well that only says what a waste his high priced ERAU education was. He has now just been trained in the military on all the same things he had already paid for once before. His education was a waste because the military taught from basic to his wings as though he knew almost nothing anyway. Plus he's stuck in that job for at least 12 years. I admire his interest in serving our country but ERAU is not a perquisite for military service. He just didn't need a high priced ERAU education to get where he is now. He would have been better of to study business or accounting or engineering or computer something unless he was so weak that he needed the prior flight training to help him get through flight training. Lots of people get through military flight training and have no prior training at all, except for the pertaining that the military provides.
I'm sure that a Dr. Phil would have a field day with HighSky. He has no idea of how far he will fall in life. Dr. Phil would say that all his problems will be personal issues, especially with women and family. (Just look at his bio) Those kinds of problems are the worst kind. And professionally, he'll be flying solo for the rest of his life because his f/o's won't help him. He doesn't think he needs help and besides nobody can help Highsky, he knows it all. He'll never take the advice of a lowly dispatcher, or f/o certainly not a f/a about anything. Again, he know it all that is apparent.
Highsky is obviously very impressed with himself, especially his military job. Well that only says what a waste his high priced ERAU education was. He has now just been trained in the military on all the same things he had already paid for once before. His education was a waste because the military taught from basic to his wings as though he knew almost nothing anyway. Plus he's stuck in that job for at least 12 years. I admire his interest in serving our country but ERAU is not a perquisite for military service. He just didn't need a high priced ERAU education to get where he is now. He would have been better of to study business or accounting or engineering or computer something unless he was so weak that he needed the prior flight training to help him get through flight training. Lots of people get through military flight training and have no prior training at all, except for the pertaining that the military provides.
I'm sure that a Dr. Phil would have a field day with HighSky. He has no idea of how far he will fall in life. Dr. Phil would say that all his problems will be personal issues, especially with women and family. (Just look at his bio) Those kinds of problems are the worst kind. And professionally, he'll be flying solo for the rest of his life because his f/o's won't help him. He doesn't think he needs help and besides nobody can help Highsky, he knows it all. He'll never take the advice of a lowly dispatcher, or f/o certainly not a f/a about anything. Again, he know it all that is apparent.
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Did you ever wonder.....
If (Some at Riddle) say they are the Harvard of Aviation...
At Harvard, do they say they are the Riddle of Medicine, Law, Science, Education, etc..........?
Yes, I'm kidding....
I really feel sorry for the graduates who went to Riddle, got the education but not the "better than thou" attitude. I have flown with quite a few Riddle graduates that never mentioned Rittle and were very good pilots.
For the childish name calling in some of the posts here .... Both Riddle and non Riddle people are guilty. Shame on you.
JAFI
If (Some at Riddle) say they are the Harvard of Aviation...
At Harvard, do they say they are the Riddle of Medicine, Law, Science, Education, etc..........?
Yes, I'm kidding....
I really feel sorry for the graduates who went to Riddle, got the education but not the "better than thou" attitude. I have flown with quite a few Riddle graduates that never mentioned Rittle and were very good pilots.
For the childish name calling in some of the posts here .... Both Riddle and non Riddle people are guilty. Shame on you.
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I know it's not Riddle, but we had a guy that was at Delta Connection come over to our FBO last week. The program is going away, so he decided to switch to us. When the instructor took a look at his log book, he had 52 hours, an had not yet soloed! In that 52 hours was all of his night, hood time, and dual cross countries. The instructor said he was a pretty good pilot and I think soloed him during his second lesson with us. What's up with Delta Connection??? Are their CFIs just trying to load up on the dual?
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In a word? Yes.
The aircraft used by that particular Delta Academy facility were pieces of flying garbage too. A friend of mine was flying their Arrow a while back and has the elevator cable bind up on him DURING THE FLARE. I was taking their Seminole up for a jaunt, and when trying to start the engines the primer pump knob CAME OFF IN MY HAND. That thing had 14.8k hours on the airframe. Aren't those things life limited to 15k before they get scrapped?
The aircraft used by that particular Delta Academy facility were pieces of flying garbage too. A friend of mine was flying their Arrow a while back and has the elevator cable bind up on him DURING THE FLARE. I was taking their Seminole up for a jaunt, and when trying to start the engines the primer pump knob CAME OFF IN MY HAND. That thing had 14.8k hours on the airframe. Aren't those things life limited to 15k before they get scrapped?
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Just to clarify, it was highsky that told westhouston that he had penis envy, and highsky's bio says that he's an assmaster. WestH didn't say anything childish that hadn't already been said to him.
And now back to the action....I need a telestrator.
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Wow, I'd be able to sleep a lot better if I hadn't just learned that. But at least that DCA facility is now boarded up.
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Unfortunately both the Riddle pilots I've flown with fit the stereo type to a tee. More confidence than ability. My latest Riddle co-pilot has a tendency to really tick me off. If you don't do something the way he wants he throws a temper tantrum. While I'm sitting in the left seat thinking, WTF is wrong with this kid? It's not that he's any better or worse of a pilot than any of the other 200-300hr co-pilots I've had, it's that he has the attitude that he's a better pilot. He needs to realize that even though I'm not a superior aviator since I didn't go to Embry Riddle, I've been around the block a few times and he needs to accept and respect my experienced decisions. But hey what do I know, I've only got about 20 times the experience he does.
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Princedietrich,
Bear in mind that the TCDS limitation of 16,663 hours is for the wing. I don't know anything about the airplane you flew, of course, but it may have had an exemption or might have had a different wing. I've flown a number of aircraft over the years which have had different wings, some as many as three or more due to their high times. Replacing a wing, spar or components isn't uncommon in life extention. If an aircraft is properly maintained, the life can be virtually limitless.
Bear in mind that the TCDS limitation of 16,663 hours is for the wing. I don't know anything about the airplane you flew, of course, but it may have had an exemption or might have had a different wing. I've flown a number of aircraft over the years which have had different wings, some as many as three or more due to their high times. Replacing a wing, spar or components isn't uncommon in life extention. If an aircraft is properly maintained, the life can be virtually limitless.
I normally don't get into these pissing matches but...
No you wouldn't get fired, you'd be doing them a favor. No need to jump on the bandwagon and bash Riddle if you don't know what you are talking about.
Careful what you say about being "stuck" in a job...we are well aware of our commitment and are proud to be there. A lot of people in military flight training now are coming in with prior flight time. While most everyone can get through military training without any prior flight time, a lot of the ones who get what they want have prior time. Maybe he was like me and was denied medically initially, and decided to go the civilian route, only to have a change in policy. Maybe like a lot of aviation grads, they realize that flying for the regionals isn't all that great and want to have fun flying and join the military. Or maybe having that flying experience helped him get his flight spot, I wouldn't consider that a waste.
Its funny, I am a UND alum, and UND claims the same thing, that they are the Harvard of Aviation...well whatever
Big flight schools tell all of their students this, its nothing new. In times of hard hiring, it does help to go to a school like this to get the reduced hiring minimums. But it sounds like this kid is a pretty arrogant prick. If you don't want to work with him, then don't. But you could also help him pull his head out of his ass and learn how to fly steam gauges and use sectionals. A student is only going to be as good as his instructor is.
No you wouldn't get fired, you'd be doing them a favor. No need to jump on the bandwagon and bash Riddle if you don't know what you are talking about.
Careful what you say about being "stuck" in a job...we are well aware of our commitment and are proud to be there. A lot of people in military flight training now are coming in with prior flight time. While most everyone can get through military training without any prior flight time, a lot of the ones who get what they want have prior time. Maybe he was like me and was denied medically initially, and decided to go the civilian route, only to have a change in policy. Maybe like a lot of aviation grads, they realize that flying for the regionals isn't all that great and want to have fun flying and join the military. Or maybe having that flying experience helped him get his flight spot, I wouldn't consider that a waste.
Its funny, I am a UND alum, and UND claims the same thing, that they are the Harvard of Aviation...well whatever
Big flight schools tell all of their students this, its nothing new. In times of hard hiring, it does help to go to a school like this to get the reduced hiring minimums. But it sounds like this kid is a pretty arrogant prick. If you don't want to work with him, then don't. But you could also help him pull his head out of his ass and learn how to fly steam gauges and use sectionals. A student is only going to be as good as his instructor is.
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Well, all I can say is that this particular PA44 was NOT properly maintained. One of the instructors there even told me that the plane had been based at one of the Florida DCA facilities and had been "sent up north to die." Needless to say, I never rented there again.
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The same boat as me? I thought your comment was a mistake. I think you must be mistaken.
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I have flown with many Riddle grads over the years. The good ones that I have flown with I found out they were from Riddle just through casual conversation. The bad ones always made sure I knew they were they got there "wings."
As for pilotage, they usually were pretty good procedurally but the fresh grads were generally weak in hard IFR. This isn't their fault really considering where they fly. However, there is a HUGE difference shooting an approach to "foggle" minimums and shooting an approach to 100 HAT (with the approach lights in sight of course) and carrying a ton of ice.
As for pilotage, they usually were pretty good procedurally but the fresh grads were generally weak in hard IFR. This isn't their fault really considering where they fly. However, there is a HUGE difference shooting an approach to "foggle" minimums and shooting an approach to 100 HAT (with the approach lights in sight of course) and carrying a ton of ice.
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