Embarrased DUI Question

[crjpos]

To all, in an anonymous forum,

Here is the scoop;

I have over 12000 hrs total time, 19 years in the airlines, and an excellent work history!!!

I was furloughed from a 14 year career at a major airline 1 1/2 yrs ago and I have a delicate question.

I have apps out to several airlines and and hoping anyone with real experience and hard info could help with the following questions

My dui is 19 yearls old but it still does exist.

1) Does anyone know if a dui is an automatic disqualifyer (really, not legally) at the following airlines

USA 3000
Jet Blue
Fed Ex
UPS
Cathay Pacific

Any info (anonymously ofcourse) would help me a great deal. I have mucho qualifications and an excellent work history - just this thorn in my A## from years ago.

Looking for anyone who has had a dui and gotten hired at these or any other carrier and their experience and how they handled it.

THANK YOU FOR YOU HELP IN THIS MATTER

Frettfully

CRJPOS

 

[Snakum]

This doesn't help your problem at all, but I found it a humorous (and appropriate) anecdote from a Krusty Old Piedmont/US Air Kaptain ...

(with a severe Southern drawl) "Back in the 70's you couldn't git on with Piedmont unless you had at least one DWI and had f@cked up at least one airplane."

Just reminded me ... that's all.

Minh

 

[SF3CA]

IMHO I don't see why any airline would have a problem with that. Geez, it was almost 20 years ago. We all have done stupid things. Just be honest about it. As far as Fedex goes, the DUI is not going to be the problem. We have hired guys with a DUI's. Your problem is that your furloughed. Unless your furlough is from USAIR, the chances of getting an interview is slim to none (unless you know Fred, Jack, or Bruce personally!)

good luck

 

[crjpos]

Thanx

Thanx for you input - I would have thoufht FEd Ex would have been a gonner for my carrer.
I would still appreciate any other hard information on other airlines if anyone has any.

Thank god for anonymity.

I am currently flying a crj ------piece of *%@#


thanx

 

[j41driver]

I am currently flying a crj ------piece of *%@#

Oh poor you. At least you have a flying job to keep you current until you get on somewhere else. Quit your whining.

 

[AV80R]

Have no info regarding the airlines you are interested in, however I used to help with recruiting at a regional airline I worked at in the past. We interviewed several pilots with your dilemma - some got hired, some did not.

I think in general, if more than 10 years had past since the dui/dwi conviction and there were no other blemishes on their records– they were ok. I also remember this one individual who got a dui some 8 years ago. He actually brought a letter from the same judge who sentenced him during the initial dui proceeding.
It was basically a nice recommendation letter stating “the guy made a mistake in the past but has since matured and learned from his mistakes, etc.” The letter also mentioned that the individual had received treatment and counseling after the conviction, and now volunteered his off-time to counsel others. We verified the authenticity of the letter - the guy was hired. Maybe something similar could work for you too? …just a thought. Good luck with your aspirations.

 

[capt. megadeth]

"I am currently flying a crj ------piece of *%@#"

Wow, it's a good thing you aren't flying a Saab or some turboprop "piece of $h**". Then I'd really feel sorry for ya. I can guarantee if you go into an interview with that attitude, you won't have to worry about your DUI.

 

[aroundtheblock]

Good thing you aren't applying for President of the US. How long ago was Bush's DUI when the Democrats released it right before last election. Just pray the interviewer is not a Kerry supporter.

 

[JB Bus Drvr]

At JetBlue, it would problably not make a difference as long as your record has been clean since then. Apply on line and be honest at the interview. In a strange way, it could help. If you admit your mistake, it shows you are human and not afraid to take responsibility for a screw up. The JB interviewers would rather have some body who is human than some one who is Mr. Perfect. Best of Luck.

 

[macfly]

As far as I know, airlines only have access to your MVR, which would not show a 19 year old DUI. MVRs only go back 4 years, I believe. So, in reality you could simply omit that information. But please, double check.

 

[Snakum]

A big HUGE negative. When your Federal file is pulled they will be able to see every arrest and subsequent disposition for everything you've ever done, even if it happened when you were a minor (I know ... I know ... it was expunged when you turned 18). Everything is on there ... and airlines will pull it. Period.

Minh

 

[AV80R]

Snakum is 100% correct. I recall an individual pulled out of his new hire class at my previous airline when his background check finally got to us - it showed a dui on his record. The sad thing is that he would have been just fine had he told us the truth, I am pretty sure the dui happened 10+ years prior to his application. Now he has a dui AND a termination on his record. Nice guy but they, mgmt, wouldn’t budge.



Macfly - I think the MVR’s only show speeding tickets, traffic violation, etc. Different states have different rules on how long they keep the records; anywhere from 3 to 10 years. The federal MVR (some airlines will search the Federal AND your State’s MVR) is for 4 years. Most airlines care about the federal only.

 

[FN FAL]

A big HUGE negative. When your Federal file is pulled they will be able to see every arrest and subsequent disposition for everything you've ever done, even if it happened when you were a minor (I know ... I know ... it was expunged when you turned 18). Everything is on there ... and airlines will pull it. Period.

Minh

Your federal file? You talkin bout that one at Langley, where they keeps them black helicopters and people that work on contract and off the reservation?

 

[crjpos]

Thanks to all

I appreciate all your help in this matter. Sorry if I offended anyone with my crj #@* comment. It was not a whine as much as an acknowledment of steps backwards.

Sorry for the sensative at heart - unless ofcourse - you need to GET A LIFE.



crj #@*
oops
crjpos

 

[FN FAL]

Good luck Crjpos, you'll never know unless you apply. I wouldn't want to work for a company that would hold a DUI that old against you...so whatever. If you don't put the apps in, you won't find out what will or won't pass muster. Give it all you got, you got nothing to lose and only everything to gain.

 

[Snakum]

You talkin bout that one at Langley

Not quite, though you and I might actually have one there, and not for a good reason either .

The "federal" report is generally refered to as "the FBI report" and will have everything on it you did wrong since you were pooping your pampers. If you have a friend in any local police department you can get it pulled, and you can get it pulled if you request a concealed handgun permit in NC. This is the same one that airlines get, in addition to your state criminal history (the one available at your local courthouse or over the net) and DMV records.

Minh

 

[FN FAL]

Thanks!

 

[lrn2fly]

Why could we not get one on request? Don't we have a right to see what's on it? I would think that any document that can be obtained by a potential employer should be available for an accuracy check of the named party.

 

[FN FAL]

Why could we not get one on request? Don't we have a right to see what's on it? I would think that any document that can be obtained by a potential employer should be available for an accuracy check of the named party.

it's called the "Freedom of Information Act". They have to give you a copy of what they got on you.

 

[j41driver]

In response to CRJPOS saying that he's flying a "CRJ------piece of *%@#" I said:

Oh poor you. At least you have a flying job to keep you current until you get on somewhere else. Quit your whining.

Now maybe that was a bit harsh but it seems to me that with all of the companies that he's asking about (in his original post) he feels that he's too good to fly a CRJ. I bet there are a ton of furloughed guys that would jump at the chance to keep flying even if it was just in a "CRJ------piece of *%@#"

Apparently he didn't like what I had to say since he sent me the following PM, titled "No wonder you don't have a job" (not sure where he got that...I never said I didn't have a job):

Dear j41driver,

You generosity and information overwhelm me. Thank you so much for your response to my posting.

I't no wonder that you have such fruitful employment and are such a huge success.

No, but really, Quit bitchin at everyone else and get off your stupid ass and do what you need to do if you don't like your life. YUou are in control of your destiny unless of course you're just that stupid.

You are truly an impediment to the success of this informatinoal networking site.

GO HOME YOU IGNORANT **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**



For a few minutes I didn't even know what the heck he was talking about. Like I said before, what I said was a bit harsh but did I really deserve this response??