EJA708 Off Runway in KASE Sunday?

[Freedom]

I never said that!!!

What I need... no, what I want most... is that everybody gets treated fairly without putting the entire company in jeapardy with a CBA!

sheesh... a few days off and all of you guys just get out of hand..

Calm down....

"Entire Company in Jeopardy with a CBA???"

If that were the case Bob19, how do you explain, that since the NetJets Pilots and their Management made Peace with the ratification of the 2005 Contract, substantially increasing NetJets' cost structure, that somehow, NetJets has increased its marketshare within the Fractional Industry, to the detriment of its competition?

How do you explain that Bob19? The ONLY Fractional with a CBA, and they are taking business away from their competition!

Sounds like Quality Management is the answer in this Industry, not whether or not a CBA exists on the Property.


Freedom is Not Free

 

[Sandhawk]

Bmpilot2003....

So let me get this right.

-You have anger isssues.
-A priest touched you when you were 13.
-Your divorced, she got a nice slice.
-You beat your dog.
-You are a regular Clear Skies caller
-The world is out to get you.

What did I miss? Oh.....your health insurance alots 20 visits a year to your local Jack in the Box.....get some help before it gets you!!!

You missed an Apostrophe AND an "E"

YOU'RE divorced

:smash:

 

[jppt2000]

I did hear something about a plane blowing tires on landing.

For a real discussion...

Have any of you "experts" heard of brakes freezing up during flight (due to freezing conditions... slush, snow, etc) and blowing tires on landing?

(I have never had this problem and wondering if any of you have any experience with this).

Ooohhh,
Tell us all you know loser.

 

[wacoflyr]

I'm stuck in a Hilton in SNA, the Packers and the Bears are going at it, and I'm reading this drivel. Clearly, there is something wrong with me. But what's right with me is that I work for a fractional and I don't think that mine is the best ever and that the others suck. I wish all of us well, even Bob19. I come here to learn, but I seldom do. What's wrong with me? What's right with me? I'm so confused!

Wacoflyr

 

[NoPlaneNoGain]

Was there. Waited about 2 hours for it clear. Watched it being towed off. It was a G200 with a QS tail.

 

[wacoflyr]

Texas sucks.

Wacoflyr

 

[TailDraggerTed]

I was there too.
You are all wrong.
The tug blew its tires and went off the runway.
They used a jet to tow it out.

I seen it with my own eyes.

 

[skiandsurf]

Ooohhh,
Tell us all you know loser.

Hey D!ck Head,

I know nothing, thats why I am asking. All I know is that these guys are saying a plane closed down a runway at ASE. Talking with others, seems like the brakes might have froze up. Since I have never experienced this, I was asking if others have.

I am trying to make the bs discussion educational for all of us, so that it doesnt happen again.

 

[wacoflyr]

I like how you started your attempt to elevate the discussion with the pithy phrase "Hey D!ckhead." This clearly shows your commitment to a more cerebral discorse. Impressive.

Wacoflyr

 

[osy007]

It wasn't a Learjet

When will NJ start hiring again?

How much is the first year FO pay.

Does NJ's get 3 or 4 crew meals per day?

I only get 2, at my current job, which is why I want to upgrade to 3 crew meals. My ultimate goal is to get to 4 crew meals.

Maybe the NJ a/c crew were eating their crew meals when the incident occured.

Please, only respond if you work for the greatest company in the world.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

"No, your company sucks!". "No, yours does!"

Sheesh, grow up and engage in intelligent discussion.

On flightinfo???
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[TKEON230]

Rumor has it that a few planes that left HPN yesterday had gear/brake issues upon landing. They are apparently looking into the possibility of de-icing fluid being a factor in the incidents.

 

[wacoflyr]

The Bears are getting their a$$es handed to them by the Packers. I wonder what the Bears will talk about at halftime?

Wacoflyr

 

[skiandsurf]

The Bears are getting their a$$es handed to them by the Packers. I wonder what the Bears will talk about at halftime?

Wacoflyr

Probably talking about one more week in Chicago, then that upcoming trade to Miami or San Diego.

 

[Loomis]

This is my first visit here in well over a year. After reading this post I remember why I left last time. Professionalism at it's finest. See you in another year.

 

[Hogprint]

When will NJ start hiring again?

How much is the first year FO pay.

Does NJ's get 3 or 4 crew meals per day?

I only get 2, at my current job, which is why I want to upgrade to 3 crew meals. My ultimate goal is to get to 4 crew meals.

Maybe the NJ a/c crew were eating their crew meals when the incident occured.

Please, only respond if you work for the greatest company in the world.

We don't get four meals a day anymore, but I'll let you have the left overs from my third.

Chow time hog.

 

[Flex-ible]

45 posts on this thread already. Man, business must be slow.

How about this for a line relevant to the original post:

I HATE WINTER!!!! WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE ALL GO TO THE CONDO IN ST. BART's INSTEAD OF FRIGGIN' COLORADO?!?!?!?

 

[wacoflyr]

We are now into overtime in
Chicago. Go Packers.

Wacolyr

 

[XTW]

Bye bye Packers. Pack it up and move it out.

 

[BlueNose]

Tire problem at EJA?

Back to the original subject, EJA708 blew tires on landing. Flightaware lists trip as from HPN. Today's FAA prelim incident info lists 2 other EJA flights that blew tires on landing yesterday also, and both also came from HPN according to flightaware.

http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/accident_incident/preliminary_data/events01/index.cfm
N346QS, NET JET346 CESSNA 680, ON LANDING BLEW TIRES, ENGLEWOOD, CO

N226QS NET JETS FLIGHT EJA 226 FALCON 2000 AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, BLEW FOUR TIRES, NO INJURIES REPORTED, COLUMBUS, OH

3 EJA flights departing from HPN the same day all blow tires on landing? Doesn't sound like coincidence to me. Is this a company tire/mx issue, which is EJ's business, or an airport/FBO issue we should all be concerned about?

 

[brokeflyer]

disregard

 

[CALRepublic]

I HATE WINTER!!!! WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE ALL GO TO THE CONDO IN ST. BART's INSTEAD OF FRIGGIN' COLORADO?!?!?!?

These people want to be seen, they want be around "their kind". Most of them congregate in Aspen, Telluride, and Jakcson Hole. If you're rich, you gotta hang with the reach.

I think its funny when they wear their cowboy boots, cowboy hat, and that long fur coat.

 

[chasmo]

Back to the original subject, EJA708 blew tires on landing. Flightaware lists trip as from HPN. Today's FAA prelim incident info lists 2 other EJA flights that blew tires on landing yesterday also, and both also came from HPN according to flightaware.

http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/accident_incident/preliminary_data/events01/index.cfm
N346QS, NET JET346 CESSNA 680, ON LANDING BLEW TIRES, ENGLEWOOD, CO

N226QS NET JETS FLIGHT EJA 226 FALCON 2000 AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, BLEW FOUR TIRES, NO INJURIES REPORTED, COLUMBUS, OH

3 EJA flights departing from HPN the same day all blow tires on landing? Doesn't sound like coincidence to me. Is this a company tire/mx issue, which is EJ's business, or an airport/FBO issue we should all be concerned about?

If there is slush or standing water on the taxiways Cessna has issued a procedure to heat the brakes on the 680. It requires several hard braking applications. If HPN was departing from rwy 16 with Netjets FBO so close to the departure end it would be difficult to get the procedure accomplished.
Just a thought.

 

[o2bflyn]

These people want to be seen, they want be around "their kind". Most of them congregate in Aspen, Telluride, and Jakcson Hole. If you're rich, you gotta hang with the reach.

I think its funny when they wear their cowboy boots, cowboy hat, and that long fur coat.

You should see 'em ski with that fur coat.

 

[hyflyin]

I never said that!!!

What I need... no, what I want most... is that everybody gets treated fairly without putting the entire company in jeapardy with a CBA!

sheesh... a few days off and all of you guys just get out of hand..

Calm down....

Bob you need to read a book called "The Number". It will explain whom puts many companies in jeapardy. And not to spoil the ending, its not a CBA in many cases, but the CEO and their unjustified millions of stock options. Stock options that can be/have been used to extort companies. Didn't say a CBA couldn't, but in many cases it doesn't. It is a very interesting read and quite scarey.

Enjoy and merry christmas,
:beer:

 

[hyflyin]

This read will make you all warm and fuzzy too.

http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com
/cluster********************_nation/2008/12/legitimacy-dwindles.html

 

[B19 Flyer]

Bob you need to read a book called "The Number". It will explain whom puts many companies in jeapardy. And not to spoil the ending, its not a CBA in many cases, but the CEO and their unjustified millions of stock options. Stock options that can be/have been used to extort companies. Didn't say a CBA couldn't, but in many cases it doesn't. It is a very interesting read and quite scarey.

Enjoy and merry christmas,
:beer:

I haven't read the book, but I'll assume that those stock options are the ones approved by the board, right?

I've seen more damage by unions than I have CEOs. In the big picture of things, a mere 12 million dollar payroll to a CEO is a drop in the bucket compared to a billion dollars worth of CBA that has provisions that allow pilots to not fly and stay current only in the sim.

 

[fischman]

I guess you haven't seen C-span, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, local news, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, etc. in the past few weeks?

We can talk when you get caught up.